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Old 03-11-2014, 12:30 AM
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Reading your words it seem it is how you perceive things that is your struggle rather than what you are doing. To me this is a very sad way to perceive another beautiful being full as value worth acknowledging. Maybe your problem actually is quite obvious? Choosing to do something because you are not in balance with it is not a healthy way of life. Choices are best made out of harmony rather than disharmony. Figure out what you wish to do and do that, don't let what you wish not to do guide you. Just a simple thought...

Fact is that a porn actress is not a goddess to be worshipped. I'd say she's rather the polar opposite, not far away from a prostitute and a drug addict. Beautiful beings full of value? Don't make me laugh. I know that some religions want desperately to see every individual as full of value and what not but that's your own doom. If you feed the parasite belief paradigm with your love you are doing no good. Prostitutes, porn actresses and drug addicts are all part of the parasite belief paradigm that this Earth is shackled by. Think of it, why do we even have those people? Aren't they really the symptoms of our own disease? By a low life porn actress I never meant an individual as if some other person was somehow less valuable than I am. We are all equal. However, if I feed the minions of the parasite system with my energy then essentially I am feeding the parasite system. You pretty much took those words out of the context which obviously changed the meaning.
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:42 AM
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I have had troubles with the incubus until about a year ago. Tell them NO. GO AWAY! Be firm. They have to go.

Yes, they are gross looking. Mine was not demon like but they are pink skinned, soft and obese. Mine wore green cloaks. Yes, when you happen to get a direct look at you they leave. They do not want to be seen by you.

They do cause you to dream of them as being handsome/beautiful. But that is a guise. Mine did not drain my energy. Mine were specifically after my sexual energy.

Tell them a firm NO. You will have to do this countless times because they will come back in future nights. Keep telling them NO. Yes, it always between the wake/sleep time that they come.
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:45 AM
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Forgot to mention, you are NOT attracting them to you. It's just another learning experience
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:13 AM
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Fact is that a porn actress is not a goddess to be worshipped. I'd say she's rather the polar opposite, not far away from a prostitute and a drug addict. Beautiful beings full of value? Don't make me laugh.

What is it I have taken out of context? these words of yours are quite clear IMO. Here are some other words of yours that point in the same direction (when put into the context they are written).

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The downside was that I also stopped having interesting spiritual experiences during the last hours of sleep so I sort of fell back to normal dreams.

I have just suggested that your perspective of life thus your attitude towards it might be part of creating your struggles, and what you experience is only a manifestation of this underlying issue. However, I acknowledge that I can be very wrong. If that is the case please ignore my words. Though if you struggle is it not worth looking beneath every stone to see if the solutions is there, and not just those who look attractive to you. Just a thought...

He who knows love is an eternal river that runs through him holds true power, knowing he looses nothing by giving it away for free.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:31 AM
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Just read some of the other posts about porn and masturbation. Entities sometimes attach "signatures" to films to "link" themselves to you. So be careful what you watch.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:44 AM
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Pornography can easily create attachments... I ended up having an encounter with a very specific Porn star not once, but twice... through random crossing... It was fascinating the first time, but very intense the second time... It really made me think long & hard about the Dangers of Manifesting & our own Fantasies... I really have to ask "Just what is it that you're trying to accomplish?" What are your Real Goals Here? Are You Worthy? What have You got to Offer?
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Old 03-11-2014, 04:36 AM
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Thank you so much, Astral Explorer and others! Although I don't want to turn into a crystal hoarder, I will surely consider acquiring some of the stones you mentioned earlier in this topic. I already have a rose quartz, amethyst and a rhodonite and I suspect that they help to keep the foul entities away as long as I'm surrounded by the stones while I'm sleeping. Yesterday the stones were all at one side and the entity attacked me from the other side. I haven't have bad experiences after drawing an imaginary circle around my room with the stones while saying "no unwelcome entities are allowed to enter this room!" but I don't do this every night. By the way, keeping a dim light on during sleep has really helped me a lot to make occasional astral travel experiences during night less scary. I haven't had scary sleep paralysis either.

Did you know that astral wind can be malicious too? I always thought that this invisible wind that makes you feel as if you were dragged over long distances while you lie in your bed is harmless. Until it turned out that it was not wind but some invisible entity dragged me around at very high velocity and then decided to attack me. Now I'm afraid of the astral wind as I associate it with the attack. That's a shame because I really enjoyed being dragged around through air over long distances at high speed.

By the way, sexual release worked pretty well until yesterday when it apparently hadn't worked. Some time ago when I started to practise a light form of celibacy these dark entities immediately showed up and I had to start to deal with them. Then I was able to get rid of them by stopping the celibacy and it worked for several weeks. The downside was that I also stopped having interesting spiritual experiences during the last hours of sleep so I sort of fell back to normal dreams. I think sexual release is a kludge. It works very well but at the same time you are wasting your precious energy that could be used to achieve advanced dreaming such as astral travel.

I've been told before that these entities come around if there is some problem with my own essence and I think I'm constantly trying to evolve but I guess I'm not good enough at being impeccable yet. Even though I have the knowledge to be impeccable I sometimes indulge. For example, I've tried to completely quit watching porn and I have failed once already. The last encounter with the succubus made me take another shot but it's just the second day so let's see where I get this time. My personal belief is that when you watch porn you're giving your energy to the actresses/actors. Perhaps some dead porn star is the succubus that is now haunting me? I've always seen my high libido as a good thing since it might indicate that I was born with excess personal energy but apparently the downside is that this attracts some negative entities. I don't think I have any trapped energy in past sexual relations or human interactions in general as I periodically attempt to free the trapped energy by recapitulating. I am not aware of any experiences that I specifically don't want to remember due to their emotional pressure so when I'm told that I must work with my insecurities regarding sex and love I don't know what to do. Sure my love life is flawed due to unmet love, "heart broken" and other petty issues but I don't feel I have any energy trapped in these memories. I don't feel self-pity for that. If I succeed at quitting porn and still have problems with the entities then I might find myself baffled and clueless.
The reason the beings showed up when you were practicing celibacy is because all of that sexual energy was unreleased and building up rendering you a fountain of energy for energetic vampires, if it continues unreleased it gets to the point where you are practically leaking energy and to any energetic vampire that is extremely inviting and they will not and cannot turn it down. Or the other option is that they have somehow managed to connect themselves to your physical body (I'm not even so sure that this can even happen but won't say it 100% can't happen since some dark-beings are so powerful and intelligent) and when you released your sexual energies in your physical body they are somehow able to drain them, and so when you stopped releasing them through porn they came around and messed with you to try and confuse you and to make you go back to your old ways. Dark-beings are very good at playing the long game and so when we do something that works against them they will ramp up their attacks to make us think it made things worse, or when something doesn't work against them they will go away and/or act like it hurts them to make us think it is working. I have had many experiences with succubi when I tried protection, light shielding, and so forth and they screamed and acted like it hurt them but were draining the energy. It was clear to me they were just "acting" and trying to trick me into thinking it worked so that I did it in the future and gave them easy energy. Energetic vampires have decided and committed to surviving and thriving at the expense of others so they have absolutely no problem what so ever taking your pent up energies. Sexual energies are a lot more powerful than most people can even conceive, Thoth was able to achieve near immortality through recycling his sexual energies. At climax when his sexual energy would release he would send it from his root chakra area back into his crown chakra (pelvic area to the head) and some argue that is actually what the Ankh was meant to represent. In the Emerald Tablets of Thoth he even tells us how to extend our lives by laying in certain directions (North, South, East, or West) and mentally bringing our energies to certain areas and then funneling them out and back in.

The astral wind scenario you describe is interesting to me. It sounds like you're being controlled by what is called a "facilitator." These are beings (often dark) who will direct your consciousness into bodies during dreams and projections. They do this for what I mentioned before the "lightning rod effect" which is where one being goes into another body in order for them to release emotions, feelings, energies, and so forth. They are extremely powerful beings and usually will attack you in order to scare you and drain your energy when you acknowledge them. I'm not really 100% sure why they do that or why they are doing what they are doing in general. In a way it seems like it is beneficial for both beings because they are able to have experiences and releases of energies that need to be worked out one way or another, but the fact that these "facilitators" are so dark and so powerful leaves me wondering if there is some dark hidden agenda guiding them into guiding others into certain bodies and situations. I know that our Brothers of Darkness are always working to recruit more brothers and that since we Human-beings are born into a heritage of light we are prime targets for them. The powerful dark-beings are highly intelligent and are well aware of the fact that darkness transmuted is light in its purest form, so perhaps they are working to prevent us from turning our darkness into light. The best defense is a good offense kind of thing I suppose. Thoth even says himself that when you start astral projecting and channeling your light that our Brothers of Darkness will test you. He says something like "when the brothers of darkness test you which they surely will make sure you do not lose sight of your goal and light."

I am going to advise you not to participate in astral sex in both dreams and projections no matter what. Even if you can sense and feel that the other participant is not a succubus or particularly dark-being it's just not a good idea to participate. It will eventually become a behavior that you commit to automatically in non-lucid dreams thus leaving you wide-open to continuous succubus attacks. They will take advantage of you at any opportunity they could really care less whether you are in a conscious state of thought and awareness or you are not, although they definitely prefer that you are willing. It takes some time and practice but if you consistently decline sexual encounters in your lucid-dreams and astral projections it will eventually translate into non lucid-dreams and you will be a lot better off. Completely stopping porn and all of that is unfortunately not very realistic so I suggest not setting such large goals. I don't think that masturbation is good for us spiritually but I do think it's a bit better than allowing your energies to pile up. One way or another those sexual energies are going to work themselves out if not in your waking life then in your sleep which is a lot riskier than the waking alternative. I highly suggest saying some sort of affirmation that you no longer want to be used in any lightning rod effects, you want the facilitators to leave you alone, and you want to work for the greater good of all and getting closer to Source energy. Honestly I'm not big into affirmations, mantras, saying things out-loud, and so forth. But changing behaviors is a long and tedious process and saying an affirmation can't hurt in the meantime.

Say something like this if you want to:

Let everything be done in service,
for the greater good of all,
as an expression of life purpose,
and getting closer to Source.


For the lightning rod say something like this:

Whoever's on duty, please close my energy field against being used as a lightning rod by anything and anyone.


Let me know if you have anymore questions or anything, good luck!
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Old 03-11-2014, 09:10 AM
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It's nothing to do with porn. It's because sexual energy when it's got nowhere to go is channeled into other places. Sexual energy is the life force and when you have deep inner psychological issues the stored sexual energy works to release them, but this means that said issues come to the forefront where they're easily visible to the type of entities which feed on it.
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:11 PM
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Forgot to mention, you are NOT attracting them to you. It's just another learning experience

I remember one time there was some entity in my room trying to approach me and I just kept saying "GO AWAY! YOU ARE NOT WELCOME HERE!" and it went away although it was quite intrusive. Another time when I had cast the circle of intent to keep the entities out of my room I suddenly discovered myself floating at my bed as usual. I had no plans what to do but sexual thoughts kept coming into my head as if I was provoked. I tend to solve difficult problems by trial and error and curiosity overpowered me. So I gave in to provocations and thought "I WANT TO F***". Immediately I was almost violently pulled to some other place. I got the feeling of my blood getting stuck in capillaries at high inertia and it was tingling. I quickly started to see another room but also I realized that it's a trap and now it's confirmed so I forced myself to wake up. After that I stopped wanting sexual experiences during OBEs. That being said, I agree that the whole thing is a learning experience for me and it shows me that it's time to understand that I should not use advanced dreaming to fill my sexual desires if I want to evolve. I'm pretty sure it's a test, but in my case a tough one.

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What is it I have taken out of context? these words of yours are quite clear IMO. Here are some other words of yours that point in the same direction (when put into the context they are written).

I have just suggested that your perspective of life thus your attitude towards it might be part of creating your struggles, and what you experience is only a manifestation of this underlying issue. However, I acknowledge that I can be very wrong. If that is the case please ignore my words. Though if you struggle is it not worth looking beneath every stone to see if the solutions is there, and not just those who look attractive to you. Just a thought...

He who knows love is an eternal river that runs through him holds true power, knowing he looses nothing by giving it away for free.

I must admit that I don't really understand what you want to say. Perspective of life is a broad term. I also don't think that you can make yourself more loving when you don't really feel like it. If anything, such state of mind is just a symptom of great spiritual achievements. See this video on youtube: "Alan Watts breaks down what's wrong with the world (1970)"

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Pornography can easily create attachments... I ended up having an encounter with a very specific Porn star not once, but twice... through random crossing... It was fascinating the first time, but very intense the second time... It really made me think long & hard about the Dangers of Manifesting & our own Fantasies... I really have to ask "Just what is it that you're trying to accomplish?" What are your Real Goals Here? Are You Worthy? What have You got to Offer?

Good point. Lucid dreaming and OBEs give the power to manifest stuff you desire and my problem so far has been that often times I have wanted to manifest sexual experiences in dreams. That needs to stop. Last week I had several dreams where my teeth were falling out and at one point a dentist woman came to give me some cure. I drank some blue liquid. Anyway, later I woke up in my bed and my teeth were still loose and wanted to fall off. It turned out that I wasn't really awake and that was just a dream state. So I got scared and woke up to check if my teeth were OK. They were. Then I fell back asleep but that time I was in a supermarket and the dentist was there, buying some stuff at the cashier. My teeth started to fall off again but this reminded me that I must be dreaming. I held my jaws tight to prevent the teeth from falling out. Then, I approached the cashier. She was looking me unsuspectingly in the eyes. I obstructed her from putting money into cash register while a bit nervous if it's really a dream. I noticed that the cashier didn't start screaming so now I was absolutely sure that it's a dream. I figured that the dentist is my projection and it's a lucid dream so I hugged her from behind and wanted to have sex with her. For a moment I felt sexual arousal but then the woman turned into a swarm of grey flies and my dream collapsed. I was lying in my bed and in the ceiling I could still see the grey flies even though I was now completely awake. The hallucination faded away in 5 minutes so it took astonishingly long time. Never before has a projection escaped from my grasp so now I was sure that the woman was not my projection but some real entity instead. I have always treated the projections of my dreams as inanimate objects but that encounter made me realize that it's probably wrong. As long as I cannot tell the difference between projections and energy generating beings it's probably better to treat them as if they were real beings. I don't want to be an astral rapist

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I am going to advise you not to participate in astral sex in both dreams and projections no matter what. Let me know if you have anymore questions or anything, good luck!

I think it's a really good advice and I will do my best to follow it. The only problem is that sometimes in dreaming I act and think differently than in the ordinary reality. For example, I tend to be more impulsive, violent and sex driven and I don't analyse things so much as if I was on auto pilot. At these moments I might still do things that I would normally not do. Other times during OBEs I can think as I do in ordinary reality.
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Old 03-11-2014, 01:53 PM
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wanting sexual experiences during OBEs.
You are learning a very valuable lesson. You don't play with entities while having a OBE. Period. You were playing with fire. It's not your realm, it's theirs. You are just a visitor.
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