Can I chop off heads in astral realm?

[Glacier Serenade]

Originally Posted by TaetmMoon

How is everything not already random? Ancients used to believe the meaning of life was affinity; spontaneous liking for something. This is a spontaneous interest that I have, just like every other question on this form, it all stems from curiosity. If we did not ask this question, we would never expand on what astral projection really is, and what the possibilities are.

People are questioning the morals, and are saying that this would not even be a good thing to experiment on. I do not agree. If it was possible, then it must have a purpose. If it was possible, wouldn't it be important to learn how to protect yourself from such darkness? Clearly evil exists, and to me, clearly demons exist, and if entities like you and I were able to go out and attack each other in the astral realm, wouldn't that matter? What if there are already people doing this to us?

What if you could steal ones soul, or at least their prana energy through this astral interaction? What if you could unbalance their chakras in this way?

Oh don't get me wrong, I think it's perfectly ok to be curious and ask these kinds of questions no matter how random or unusual! It's something I wouldn't mind seeing more often actually

[Dan_SF]

Let me use what you wrote, as an answer to your question, or as a hint, if you like:

Originally Posted by TaetmMoon

Clearly evil exists, and to me, clearly demons exist,

So I start attacking their astral body like I would attack their body,

if you managed to do the 2nd quote, then you should be feared by the 1st quote, because you made yourself a demon.

i know stupid body attacking thoughts made you do something you should not do.

If you really were in the astral, and really successfully attacked them, then you can expect to be attacked.

Not because they are attacking you, but the real reason is that you have attacked yourself in the astral world.

its like cause and effect, in which you do not see who you really attack, and so the attack appears, in time later (or even earlier as it is not time dependent), as someone else attacking you.

Concentrate on healing. and so you can and will be healed. the only thing that is worth everything.


If you managed to do it, it can be a lesson, one which you should learn. maybe this post will help you.

wouldn't it be important to learn how to protect yourself from such darkness?

You protect yourself from Darkness by being Light.

And when you are Light, you will recognize, that protection is not needed, because where Light is, darkness can not be.

In the Light of understanding, attacking thoughts are impossible.

[CrystalSong]

It's very likely you would get slammed back into your physical body before you could do more than think about causing harm.

People are protected by Benevolent Beings who watch over them, also your own Higher Self isn't going to let you mess with someone if it deems it not useful you or theirs Highest Good - from the Higher Self's point of view - not the Ego's point of view. You can get slammed back in your body by even trying things you might not think of as harmful but could have unintended ripple effects of consequences.

Make no mistakes - Ego isn't the boss when you go OBE. You're on a chain and it can be yanked by the Higher Self if you try things its not in alignment with.

This I do know from first hand experience.
From several experiences, in which none of them I was causing harm to anyone, more like poking my nose in places and looking at things it was not my time to know yet.
Slam Down! Boom. Back in body.

[Astral Explorer]

Originally Posted by TaetmMoon

Like if someone didn't know how to astral project. I projected to their house when they are watching TV on the couch. Their spirit is obviously residing within the body, and they can't see into the astral realm like I can. So I start attacking their astral body like I would attack their body,

My question is: would they feel it? Would I basically be like a demon or angel, or "spirit"? Able to attack and control their mind? What if they were about to sit in a chair, and I decided to sit in the chair before they did, and they sat on me. What would happen?

The problem with the first paragraph question is that astral projection is the act of projecting your consciousness, soul, spirit, energy, or whatever you want to call it into another dimension. Being that the person watching TV on their couch exists in the physical dimension means that you could not chop of their head since you are projecting into a completely different dimension. The first problem with attacking their astral body is simple - finding their astral body. Astral projection occurs primarily in the "spiritual" dimensions meaning that those dimensions are inhabited by you can probably guess.... Spirits. The chances of you encountering another living Human-being's spiritual body in the spiritual dimensions is far beyond low. 99.999% of the beings you encounter during an astral projection are going to be beings that exist primarily in the dimension you've projected in. So statistically speaking you're not even going to be able to find their spiritual body to be honest, let alone try and chop off their head. But you could certainly try and chop off the head of a spiritual being that exists in the spiritual dimensions, although I don't recommend doing so since the knowledge and skill we possess in the spiritual dimensions compared to them is the equivalent of a baby in the physical dimension compared to an adult. They are far more skilled since they reside in that dimension and know how to defend themselves far greater than our skill to attack them is. Bluntly speaking we are out of our element, even after we've spent a great deal of time in the spiritual dimensions and learning how they operate. They have more time mastering their craft in that environment than we can comprehend. And if you go into a projection with the mindset of causing damage to another being (even if it's just an innocent test) you're going to end up in a lower-vibrational dark realm which is inhabited by beings who do nothing but fight each other, hurt each other, and dominate each other. So you will be outmatched in every aspect.

But since you did bring up the topic of spiritual decapitation I feel the need to go a little deeper. It's not by coincidence than a lot of demonology teaches one of the only ways to truly "kill" a demon is to completely decapitate them. This myth also stretches into vampires, dragons, and some other mythological beings. All of those mythological beings can in one way or another be traced back to demons and the dark spiritual dimensions. So there is definitely something that many civilizations, cultures, and religions managed to stumble upon with the whole idea of spiritual decapitation. In my own experiences I have seen a spiritual being decapitated and at least they were pretending to be "dead." What exactly constitutes "dead" in the spiritual dimensions I cannot say, I am quite certain it's not the same as what we consider "dead" though. The story of Osiris how he was cut into pieces and put back together certainly has its roots in the spiritual dimensions. And the spiritual bodies are comprised of some type of semi-solid liquid substance that is almost plasma-like. So pieces of them can certainly be removed and even put back. The question is what happens to that being if their head is removed. Does only the body die? Does the entire being die? Do they come back to life if they are put back together? Nobody can say for sure. But in the experience where the being was beheaded they all at least pretended that being had died, although this was in the lower-vibrational dimensions so they really didn't get bent out of shape as one would expect after witnessing what would be considered murder in our dimension. To them it seemed like an every day mundane event. The reason I say they seemed though is because you can take what you see in the lower-vibrational dimensions as a grain of sand. Because they are always putting on a fake show to lead us astray, lying to us, playing sinister games, etc. all to confuse us and lead us into darkness with them. Truthfully if the biggest question you have about astral projection is if you can decapitate beings in the spiritual dimensions I don't think you should be worrying about astral projecting quite yet, because you're only going to open doors you can never shut and end up regretting it. I'd wait until you're in a wiser form later on in life.

[Domintheos]

Originally Posted by TaetmMoon

Like if someone didn't know how to astral project. I projected to their house when they are watching TV on the couch. Their spirit is obviously residing within the body, and they can't see into the astral realm like I can. So I start attacking their astral body like I would attack their body,

My question is: would they feel it? Would I basically be like a demon or angel, or "spirit"? Able to attack and control their mind? What if they were about to sit in a chair, and I decided to sit in the chair before they did, and they sat on me. What would happen?

*Note* This is just my opinion |

To be honest, I've performed a few astral projections--and it doesn't work that way in my experience. Once outside of your body, you'll be in what's known as "real-time-space" (RTS); this realm acts as a buffer between the astral and physical worlds, and it's an exact replica of earth--minus a few reality fluctuations.

People look just as they are in this realm, and once you transition into the astral plane you'll no longer be able to see that person--unless they're a real Occultist and co-exist within both realities.

[Paige Ignited]

Go sit on the couch ... and we'll see what happens.

Let me know the outcome afterwards if you still have your head.

You sound pretty sick. But there it is, it takes all kinds....


...

[Elohim]

you can travel at will by practicing rigorous meditation


Know yourself , meditate and find the answer , no money involved
there are no shortcuts in Spirituality
Google, pyramidmeditation, its free meditation and it is focusing on Breath Energy

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

You sound pretty sick. But there it is, it takes all kinds....

You offered nothing of value to the poster of this thread (nor to the discussion in general) by giving that statement. It is an insult, a verbal attack, not practical advice. Nor does "it takes all kinds" make any real sense; that is a pop-culture saying that many people copy from other people, in part because they think it sounds cool.

It is one thing to imply that a person is mentally sick, but another to offer something of value that you feel could help the person.

Originally Posted by TaetmMoon

...So I start attacking their astral body like I would attack their body... My question is: would they feel it?

Originally Posted by TaetmMoon

How is everything not already random?

Friend, it would be wise to ask yourself, "Why would I want to do harm to another?" For that would be a question that would open you up to receiving greater self-understanding.

You may also wish to question that common human belief in "randomness." There is no proof that any events occur randomly. "Random" is an observation that largely occurs because most people in general do not understand the causation of events.

All events occur for a reason, and "random" explains nothing. No thought or event just spontaneously occurs. (It only seems that way to those who do not see the deeper causation.) All events are interconnected. There is no actual separation between one thought and another, nor between one action and another, for everything is one universal energy. The scientific evidence for this far outweighs anything proving randomness.

Your questions were not random. They were asked because you already had a curious interest in such things to some degree, and you also had/have some very unhealthy thoughts in regards to influencing/affecting people.

You were offered some compassionate advice from some of the posters in this thread, and if you see my response to you here, I suggest that you re-read and consider some of the ideas that you were given, if you haven't already done so. It wouldn't hurt to reexamine them. Peace.

[awareness]

Originally Posted by Elohim

you can travel at will by practicing rigorous meditation


Know yourself , meditate and find the answer , no money involved
there are no shortcuts in Spirituality
Google, pyramidmeditation, its free meditation and it is focusing on Breath Energy

Elohim, I see that all you've done so far in this community is post this same message in numerous threads.