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Old 07-08-2013, 08:30 PM
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Would god make it extra hard on you after you suicide?

I've been studying about reincarnation for some time now. I'm a 29 year old guy who's suffering from Body Dysmorphia and was interested to know what would happen to a soul who is absolutely not happy with his current body after committing suicide? would he have to come back under the same circumstances? Or would his suffering be taken into account and somewhat things would end up better this time?
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:31 PM
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The best explanation that I've heard of, is that the soul has an instinct that there is a natural progression of things-- a spiritual journey.

Suicide is usually a violation of that instinct. So, yes, in the next life someone who commits suicide would re-tread the same long hard journey, have the same feelings to struggle with... and, perhaps, the same opportunities-- the trick being not to give up before finding those opportunities this time.

Then again, it isn't just on one person, I think. It's an entire world of different souls jostling together-- and, usually, harming one another. If you, for example, are drowning in the binary gender essentialism paradigm of society... then that isn't just going to be on you to figure out a way, it's on everyone who contributes to work through that issue in our world. It's slow going, but perhaps a mere generation before, we didn't have the vocabulary to recognize the suffering of body dysmorphia-- the suffering was still there, but sufferers perhaps didn't have the tools to figure it out.
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:38 PM
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No god wouldn't make it hard for there is no god to even judge you, the only ones who judge, are the ones that are afraid of death, those who try to cling to life cannot understand how anyone could kill themselves.
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:27 AM
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I've never heard or read nor do I believe of punishment being handed down by God or spirit guides for a completed suicide of a healthy body or one actively dying ...
My understanding is a person who completed suicide w/a healthy body is immediately reincarnated to try human life again under similar, if not, the same type of mental &/or physical challenges ...
It makes no difference if the soul returns in the same form or of the opposite sex; lessons are the same ...
The cycle continues till a soul has completed an entire life successfully; meaning a death not by suicide ...
Hope this helps ...
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Old 08-08-2013, 08:22 PM
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No god wouldn't make it hard for there is no god to even judge you, the only ones who judge, are the ones that are afraid of death, those who try to cling to life cannot understand how anyone could kill themselves.
I like spiritualism and religious faith because it becomes a source of hope when life becomes a struggle. Whatever one's particular beliefs are, we can always think of reasons to stick to the fight, to push on, when times are hard. I find that the more reasons we have, the better off we are. Hope is the shining light on our lives that gives us the strength to press on, to look for solutions, and to become more than what we are. Faith, love and compassion are the armor that protects the most important part of us, our humanity.
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:14 PM
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I like spiritualism and religious faith because it becomes a source of hope when life becomes a struggle. Whatever one's particular beliefs are, we can always think of reasons to stick to the fight, to push on, when times are hard. I find that the more reasons we have, the better off we are. Hope is the shining light on our lives that gives us the strength to press on, to look for solutions, and to become more than what we are. Faith, love and compassion are the armor that protects the most important part of us, our humanity.
Yes I like that, and that little owl is so cute.
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:28 AM
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Yes I like that, and that little owl is so cute.
Thanks.
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Old 07-08-2013, 09:57 PM
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I've been studying about reincarnation for some time now. I'm a 29 year old guy who's suffering from Body Dysmorphia and was interested to know what would happen to a soul who is absolutely not happy with his current body after committing suicide? would he have to come back under the same circumstances? Or would his suffering be taken into account and somewhat things would end up better this time?


You're just studying, right? Nothing more?

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Old 08-08-2013, 12:45 AM
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I've been studying about reincarnation for some time now. I'm a 29 year old guy who's suffering from Body Dysmorphia and was interested to know what would happen to a soul who is absolutely not happy with his current body after committing suicide? would he have to come back under the same circumstances? Or would his suffering be taken into account and somewhat things would end up better this time?
This is what I think. Reincarnation is not about punishment. It is about opportunity to keep growing. Every birth is an opportunity to grow whether or not we are happy living it. One aspect of growth is overcoming our fears, including fear of dying and fear of god. In my view, suffering itself is no justification for reward. However one can learn and grow while suffering and that I think merits reward.
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Old 23-12-2013, 04:56 AM
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This is what I think. Reincarnation is not about punishment. It is about opportunity to keep growing. Every birth is an opportunity to grow whether or not we are happy living it. One aspect of growth is overcoming our fears, including fear of dying and fear of god. In my view, suffering itself is no justification for reward. However one can learn and grow while suffering and that I think merits reward.
Hi, kris. I LOVE this concept! And in response to the OP, Phrozen84, I ask: why would anyone want to default back to the starting point and again struggle through a similar hard journey, when the alternative would be to fight/wallow/sob/scream through the hard times and come out on the other side of them with a new understanding and another phase of growth that was earned through the suffering?

Please know, Phrozen that I do not mean to minimize your pain and struggle. I am sorry that you have been, or are, struggling with pain. But it seems pointlessly masochistic to end one's life and then have to start all over again, with similar struggles and pain. Trust me, I've wondered this at times myself - but the soul instinct to keep plodding away on this path has been stronger - perhaps deep down I knew I'd wind up going through all the same hurt again if I cut my journey short, before it was my time.
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