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Old 04-12-2017, 12:26 PM
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Guide or what?

Alright, a little background.

I had been practicing meditation exercises in a book I had picked up. One was a guide exercise where I was to meet my guide. A human male, with blue eyes black hair and black clothing had unexpectedly shown up. I then decided to try a probable self exercise in the same book. When I did the probable self exercise my meditative state going in was remarkable. It was said to imagine a gold mist- and while envisioning the mist I had envisioned was stunning. Well when I approached to meet my probable self in the exercise the same guide whom had appeared to me in the guide exercise was there.

The feeling of the meditation was very peaceful.

Last night I had awoken from sleep, I went to use the facilities and when returning to bed happened to look and standing there in the corner of the room was the same guide.

This is not the first time I have seen him with waking eyes.


My question is, is this really a guide or something else? It can be viewed at times with my waking eyes. It also appeared in both a guide exercise and probable self exercise. So which is it? A guide? Probable self? Spirit attachment?

Any ideas here appreciated.

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Old 05-12-2017, 11:45 AM
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I had been practicing meditation exercises in a book I had picked up. One was a guide exercise where I was to meet my guide.

Hi SaturninePluto,

I too have used a book of course work to understand meditation and spirit guides. Although the book did suggest the work to be completed over a two year period, I only ever managed one. Oddly enough it was at the end of the first year that I was to meditate on a spirit guide to take me on to the great temple pyramid, (the title of the book). But I always felt that I was recycling the first year, unable to make real progress into the second, and so stopped working with the book.
My spirit guide felt too forced, like wish fulfillment, primarily anchored in the imagination.

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My question is, is this really a guide or something else? It can be viewed at times with my waking eyes. It also appeared in both a guide exercise and probable self exercise. So which is it? A guide? Probable self? Spirit attachment?

The next time he appears you must ask him questions. What is his name? Is he a guide? Where will he guide you? Questions should determine whether your spirit is genuine or not.

When I asked my guide to give me her name she said it was Isabel. As I tried to learn more about her it turned out that her name was actually, Eyes of Pearl. She was an albino with moon-blindness. This seemed to reflect much of the work I had done before and I put it down to the aforementioned wish-fulfillment and imagination.

Hope you have better results than I
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:03 PM
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Spirit? Probably. Guide? Possibly. The realm of the noncorporeal is vast and spiritual activities among the human attract many sorts. I am curious as to what sort of being, at least visually, you DID expect since he was a surprise. That he wasn't exactly what you expected is a good sign, mind you. Determining the spirit's function or purpose is too early as yet.
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:36 PM
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I don't know who/what he is but didn't it startle you to see him standing in your room? I'd be like ''who the hell are you'' and turn the light on if something familiar were to happen to me.
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:41 PM
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Spirit? Probably. Guide? Possibly. The realm of the noncorporeal is vast and spiritual activities among the human attract many sorts. I am curious as to what sort of being, at least visually, you DID expect since he was a surprise. That he wasn't exactly what you expected is a good sign, mind you. Determining the spirit's function or purpose is too early as yet.


Honestly I went into the meditations expecting nothing. I had not expected a guide to present itself at all. I have been having memories of seeing this same individual/being even before the guide exercise. He first appeared as my great uncle during a mediumship experience. More recently but a few years ago I had an image of him in what looked like a tux- an image of him, with a black and white background of a building, and the 1930's came to mind. My great uncle had passed around then if I am not mistaken.

However I have also seen what may be this same being with blood on the head area. My great uncle had not passed as such. No head trauma. He had passed from a shot in the hospital while hospitalized for Tuberculosis. Something had gone wrong when he was given a shot of medicine.

I am wondering what exactly is going on. This looks like the spirit that appeared to me as my great uncle with information about him, but it is not certain that is who it is. I have never seen pictures of my great uncle. I don't think my Grandfather had any photos of him. He died around the 1930's very young. There may not actually be any photos of him.

I am confused here. This being will not stop appearing. It isn't every day at all, it is every now and again, but it will not go away. It has not been exactly bothersome or anything. But I am at a loss of the point.
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:42 PM
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I don't know who/what he is but didn't it startle you to see him standing in your room? I'd be like ''who the hell are you'' and turn the light on if something familiar were to happen to me.


Lol hey Slayer.

Actually it didn't surprise me at all, I am used to him showing up.

I was more "Whatever man I'm going to sleep here".

And went back to sleep.
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Old 07-12-2017, 04:54 PM
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Lol hey Slayer.

Actually it didn't surprise me at all, I am used to him showing up.

I was more "Whatever man I'm going to sleep here".

And went back to sleep.

lol. But when you saw him what exactly was he doing? Did he smile or gesture anything, or was he just staring without any facial expression?
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Old 07-12-2017, 05:05 PM
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lol. But when you saw him what exactly was he doing? Did he smile or gesture anything, or was he just staring without any facial expression?


He did what he usually does, just stands there in black, and stares at me, with an expression of sadness in his eyes. Like he is upset about something, but as I can not really speak to him I have no idea what, or what it is supposed to mean. He looks as if he is sad for me, that is the easiest way to explain the expression.

But as I had said, I had awoken from sleep, came back into the room to return to sleep, lied down, looked up and he was there in the corner with his usual expression.

My thoughts were "Well what the hell do you expect me to do about it"?

And I went back to sleep.
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Old 07-12-2017, 07:33 PM
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Honestly I went into the meditations expecting nothing. I had not expected a guide to present itself at all. I have been having memories of seeing this same individual/being even before the guide exercise. He first appeared as my great uncle during a mediumship experience. More recently but a few years ago I had an image of him in what looked like a tux- an image of him, with a black and white background of a building, and the 1930's came to mind. My great uncle had passed around then if I am not mistaken.

However I have also seen what may be this same being with blood on the head area. My great uncle had not passed as such. No head trauma. He had passed from a shot in the hospital while hospitalized for Tuberculosis. Something had gone wrong when he was given a shot of medicine.

I am wondering what exactly is going on. This looks like the spirit that appeared to me as my great uncle with information about him, but it is not certain that is who it is. I have never seen pictures of my great uncle. I don't think my Grandfather had any photos of him. He died around the 1930's very young. There may not actually be any photos of him.

I am confused here. This being will not stop appearing. It isn't every day at all, it is every now and again, but it will not go away. It has not been exactly bothersome or anything. But I am at a loss of the point.

There is much information here. Clearly this being is seeking your attention, or else he would not have been this persistent about being seen. And I notice that although his visuals change, you feel this is the same spirit. His apparent sadness could be an expression of his personality, or simply him trying to say that he has been waiting for a while now so would you please give him a little time?

It is obvious that you receive visuals well. Sit down, call for him by what words seem right, and when he appear you ask for him to write words in your mind. What his name is, why he is there, does he have a message for you. Whisper the words if you like; he will hear. And be courteous to him; he is.
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He did what he usually does, just stands there in black, and stares at me, with an expression of sadness in his eyes. Like he is upset about something, but as I can not really speak to him I have no idea what, or what it is supposed to mean. He looks as if he is sad for me, that is the easiest way to explain the expression.

But as I had said, I had awoken from sleep, came back into the room to return to sleep, lied down, looked up and he was there in the corner with his usual expression.

My thoughts were "Well what the hell do you expect me to do about it"?

And I went back to sleep.

In that case, I don't think it's a guide because standing in a corner and pouting at you non-stop for whatever reason and startling you by randomly popping up somewhere doesn't exactly sound like something a guide would do. If guides were real, logic convinces me that they would promote hope rather than sadness because they are in in close proximity to God and have no reason to be sad. Unless, maybe they really hate their job of babysitting us mortals 24/7 (and I wouldn't blame them) although that is questionable because why would they agree to it in the first place?

Of course it's your call, but I believe the most reasonable thing to do would be to flip the bird at it and let it know it's not welcome. Because for all you know it could be that cat-eyed demon thing you mentioned a while ago, trying to find a loophole to enter into your life.
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