Buddhism and Magical Powers

[jonesboy]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Referencing Professor Zöllner’s “Fourth-Dimension (circa 1878?).

To me there are infinite dimensions. As one realizes Universal Mind it is more about expanding to become all of it. It is all within you, as you.

Again I think was you are referring to with regard to auras and 4th dimension stuff is more astral in nature.

[BigJohn]

Professor Zöllner’s book on the “Fourth-Dimension was translated into English by the vice president of the Theosophical Society (1881) it was required reading. When Madame Blavaski and that vice president had a falling out, the book and the 4th dimension became a taboo subject.

[jonesboy]

The higher the degree of his mastery over the meditative attainments, the higher the esteem in which an arahant monk is held and the more praiseworthy his achievement is considered. Thus the Buddha says of the ubhatobhagavimutta arahant: "There is no liberation in both ways higher and more excellent than this liberation in both ways"(D.ii,71).

The highest respect goes to those monks who possess not only liberation in both ways but the six abhiññas or "super-knowledges": the exercise of psychic powers, the divine ear, the ability to read the minds of others, the recollection of past lives, knowledge of the death and rebirth of beings, and knowledge of final liberation. The Buddha declares that a monk endowed with the six abhiññas, is worthy of gifts and hospitality, worthy of offerings and reverential salutations, a supreme field of merit for the world (A.iii,280-81).

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/.../wheel351.html

You missed the part of Buddhist teachings, as usual:

The highest path, the path of arahatship, eradicate the remaining five fetters — desire for existence in the fine-material and immaterial spheres, conceit, restlessness and ignorance. The arahant has completed the development of the entire path taught by the Buddha; he has reached the end of rebirths and can sound his "lion's roar": "Destroyed is birth, the holy life has been lived, what was to be done has been done, there is nothing further beyond this."

There is only one real magic, the magic of Dhamma. Any other magic is like the illusion of a card trick. It’s distracts us from the real game: our relation to human life, to birth, to death and to freedom.

- Luang Por Chah
http://www.ahandfulofleaves.org/docu...ahn%20Chah.pdf

[jonesboy]

Originally Posted by janielee

You missed the part of Buddhist teachings, as usual:

The highest path, the path of arahatship, eradicate the remaining five fetters — desire for existence in the fine-material and immaterial spheres, conceit, restlessness and ignorance. The arahant has completed the development of the entire path taught by the Buddha; he has reached the end of rebirths and can sound his "lion's roar": "Destroyed is birth, the holy life has been lived, what was to be done has been done, there is nothing further beyond this."

I missed nothing. I quoted what was fitting to the topic of the thread. As shown earlier a Buddha has the abilities mentioned.

Your quote doesn’t deny what I posted or say once there is nothing more to achieve all such abilities go away.

Originally Posted by jonesboy

I missed nothing. I quoted what was fitting to the topic of the thread. As shown earlier a Buddha has the abilities mentioned.

Your quote doesn’t deny what I posted or say once there is nothing more to achieve all such abilities go away.

I’d have more respect if you kept your story(ies) straight.

Jl

The evening of April 2, 1981, after Luang Pu had returned from a ceremony in the palace and was resting at the royal monastic dwelling in Wat Bovorn, a high-ranking monk who was also a meditator came to visit and to converse with him about the Dhamma. His first question was this: "They say that a person who was a yakkha in a previous life, on returning to a human birth, can study magical formulae and be very powerful in whatever way he uses them. How true is that?"

Luang Pu sat right up and answered,

"I've never been interested in that sort of thing at all. But have you ever meditated to this point: hasituppapada, the movement of the mind where it smiles on its own, without any intention to smile? It happens only in a noble one's mind. It doesn't happen in ordinary people, because it lies beyond the conditions of fabrication — free in and of itself."

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/...ftsheleft.html

[jonesboy]

Originally Posted by janielee

The evening of April 2, 1981, after Luang Pu had returned from a ceremony in the palace and was resting at the royal monastic dwelling in Wat Bovorn, a high-ranking monk who was also a meditator came to visit and to converse with him about the Dhamma. His first question was this: "They say that a person who was a yakkha in a previous life, on returning to a human birth, can study magical formulae and be very powerful in whatever way he uses them. How true is that?"

Luang Pu sat right up and answered,



https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/...ftsheleft.html

You are spamming my thread.

Magical formulea is local mind stuff. It is not the same thing as what the Buddha was teaching. Wanting powers is an obstruction. It is that want and desire that will keep them away from you.

The thread was started because you didn’t believe that Buddhism talked about or believed in abilities. I am just showing that they are a natural result of deeper realizations.

Now please stop spamming my thread with unrelated posts or I will ask the moderators to talk to you.

[sky]

Originally Posted by janielee

The evening of April 2, 1981, after Luang Pu had returned from a ceremony in the palace and was resting at the royal monastic dwelling in Wat Bovorn, a high-ranking monk who was also a meditator came to visit and to converse with him about the Dhamma. His first question was this: "They say that a person who was a yakkha in a previous life, on returning to a human birth, can study magical formulae and be very powerful in whatever way he uses them. How true is that?"

Luang Pu sat right up and answered,



https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/...ftsheleft.html

Thanks for the Link JL, it's an interesting read, really enjoyed it.