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24-05-2018, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by barrynu
Unconditional Love as Boshy has said is an Attribute of Perfection.
Understanding what and who and why we Are,, is another.
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Unconditional love has conditions Barry  |
24-05-2018, 04:21 PM
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Trying to be perfect is an attachment to the self, thinking that the self is unique and seperate from others. We are perfect in our imperfections, just be, as humans will never be perfect until we awaken  |
I agree that trying to be Perfect won't bring perfection because trying is an admission that you are not perfect which is not good for the Ego or Spirit.....so we are perfect but Earthly experiences make us think other wise.
I cannot admit I am Perfect....yet I am Perfect.....gettin a bit confused now!  |
24-05-2018, 04:22 PM
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Unconditional love has conditions Barry |
 You will have to explain if you want a reply. |
24-05-2018, 05:11 PM
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[quote=barrynu] You will have to explain if you want a reply.[/QUOTE
To love unconditionally is based on the concept of the love being static, nothing is static, so unconditional is conditioned. |
24-05-2018, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by barrynu
I agree that trying to be Perfect won't bring perfection because trying is an admission that you are not perfect which is not good for the Ego or Spirit.....so we are perfect but Earthly experiences make us think other wise.
I cannot admit I am Perfect....yet I am Perfect.....gettin a bit confused now! |
If there's no cracks the light can't shine through. |
24-05-2018, 05:19 PM
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I don't think you need gospels to realize it's an unrealistic goal, common sense is enough Trial and error is also useful. |
sky123,
You missed the point. The 2 cited scriptures define/explain each other.....>) |
24-05-2018, 05:32 PM
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Perfection
All,
...perhaps a consideration from another perspective may help (expanded in the references).
WE ARE PERFECT EVEN AS OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN IS PERFECT......
.....because the Creator created US and ALL the principles of Life out of His Own perfect, Divine pattern.
......whether you know that this is so, whether you do not believe this is so, or whether you are ignorant that this is so.
….and as also indicated, "Perfection does not come from projecting our own ideas but from awakening to the knowledge that it is already the established order of things."
That is the lesson we can learn from Adam and Eve….
When we comprehend that we and God are ONE ... as the Vine and the branch are ONE ... or as the Ocean and the wave are ONE, we have a choice to make.
....the very same lesson Adam and Eve had to learn.
Hope this, and the references, below helps....
Reference: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...72&postcount=8
Reference: http://www.thechristmind.org/the-law.htm
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“Why, that’s true! I am a perfect, unlimited gull!” Jonathan opened his eyes asking, "Where are we?” The Elder Chiang said, “We’re on some planet with a green sky and a double star for a sun.” Jonathan made a scree of delight. “IT WORKS!" “Well, of course it works, Jon,” said Chiang. “It always works, when you know what you’re doing." (and even when you don't)
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24-05-2018, 05:43 PM
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" The eye through which I see God is the same eye through which God sees me; my eye and God’s eye are one eye, one seeing, one knowing, one love.”
Our essence is perfect.
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24-05-2018, 05:45 PM
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sky123,
You missed the point. The 2 cited scriptures define/explain each other.....>)
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I did notice
I am not a lover of gospels, I prefer self realization. |
24-05-2018, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sky123
" The eye through which I see God is the same eye through which God sees me; my eye and God’s eye are one eye, one seeing, one knowing, one love.”
Our essence is perfect.
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Sky123,
....so perfectly stated.
http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...8&postcount=22
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“Why, that’s true! I am a perfect, unlimited gull!” Jonathan opened his eyes asking, "Where are we?” The Elder Chiang said, “We’re on some planet with a green sky and a double star for a sun.” Jonathan made a scree of delight. “IT WORKS!" “Well, of course it works, Jon,” said Chiang. “It always works, when you know what you’re doing." (and even when you don't)
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