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17-08-2015, 06:07 PM
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Guide
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: In dreams
Posts: 558
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Enlightenment
Can one truly live in the human body is self-realisation is achieved?
Are what we call 'enlightened" individuals actually just people who've had moments of self-realisation, but are still vey much ego?
I was watching Actualised on Youtube.
Leo on that was going on about his experiences in life.
I myself have had the most surreal experiences that I can barely fathom still.
But were I to fully realise myself as what I experienced, well doesn't that bring an end to this life? If I become self actualised will everything I experience in physical reality just dissolve into One?
I just don't understand how you can maintain that space and continue to do everyday things that need to be done, like the dishes or going to work?
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17-08-2015, 06:14 PM
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Ascender
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 830
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hi if so than so
and all you see around will be light
the conscious light that is the basis of creation
you have entered the word of love and light :-)
you can't miss it its not a moment of insight
but a 24/7 thing also known as end of separation
the barrier between you and the afterlife is not there any more
and yes it usually means last time here
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much love and light to you
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17-08-2015, 06:47 PM
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Master
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Guadalajara, México
Posts: 1,942
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Hello MysticalShaman,
Is not necessary to merge with the One when you reach the enlightenment, there are plenty of paths and things to do before merging with the absolute.
I would like to go to higher dimensions, I would like to descend into lower dimensions to teach, I would like to travel a billion worlds and civilizations, I would like to Love for many many many years. =)
Once you merge with the absolute, you could "separate" from the One if you want to do it some day.
There is only one rule: "Everything is possible"
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"Do not pity the dead Harry. Pity the living and above all those who live without Love"
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17-08-2015, 07:07 PM
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The idea that there are enlightened individuals is already part of the story.
Enlightenment is just "real" as long as the idead that there is a person is "real".
Enlightenment is not a REAL event that happens to a real entity, that then is still an entitiy but just enlightened.
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17-08-2015, 09:06 PM
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Guide
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: In dreams
Posts: 558
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Quote:
Originally Posted by luntrusreality
The idea that there are enlightened individuals is already part of the story.
Enlightenment is just "real" as long as the idead that there is a person is "real".
Enlightenment is not a REAL event that happens to a real entity, that then is still an entitiy but just enlightened.
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That's precisely what I mean.
Okay so in this live so far as I have lived I have been to funerals. I have seen babies. As far as everyone else is concerned in my immediate life: i.e. my family - you born, you live, you die and that's how their story goes.
But I have come to see, or rather "intellectually understand" that if you don't identify with the person and the story, and realise you are life itself in its totality then you surpass death in a sense.
What I'm asking is if you transcend that barrier to the love & light as others posted ( love that metaphor actually ), will life continue as it always has, just your perspective will have changed?
Will I still be doing dishes only they'll sparkle more
I'm sorry if I'm being repetitive or not getting it....
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17-08-2015, 09:37 PM
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Ascender
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 830
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticalShaman
That's precisely what I mean.
barrier to the love & light as others posted ( love that metaphor actually ),
I'm sorry if I'm being repetitive or not getting it....
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I am just telling you what my life has been like for the past 25 years
don't see how it can be a metaphor
to bring other is the light is what i can do and would be the highest teaching
other might be healing or other help of lesser degree
must say to bring in the light I do not see as a fight against some ones ego
rather to assist the one that wants to have that reality real bad
others can just do what there ego allows them to be or experience
for me their is no extra bonus in any of all this anyway
so much pain in so many egos
that are the teaching of the schools and education competition
be better or be not good enough many have build strong guards up around
them
the pain others course to feel is hard , yet its the consciousness that is so
blocked that shares the collective energies
I waste my time posting this and on this forum
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18-08-2015, 07:16 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 3,356
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MysticalShaman
Can one truly live in the human body is self-realisation is achieved?
Are what we call 'enlightened" individuals actually just people who've had moments of self-realisation, but are still vey much ego?
I was watching Actualised on Youtube.
Leo on that was going on about his experiences in life.
I myself have had the most surreal experiences that I can barely fathom still.
But were I to fully realise myself as what I experienced, well doesn't that bring an end to this life? If I become self actualised will everything I experience in physical reality just dissolve into One?
I just don't understand how you can maintain that space and continue to do everyday things that need to be done, like the dishes or going to work?
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To the first question I would clearly say: no
if we define self realization equal enlightenment equal vibrating on the level of wisdom, or 5th density. If one vibrates on this level for a short time the body will start to disintegrate.
Will one dissolve into One? No, just move to an other level, not to us the term, higher level. Some seam to have a problem with this, even so it is clearly a higher vibration. But far from Oneness, but certainly closer to it.
Most who try to achieve this level, move to certain locations on this planet, that support this work.
It can be done in other areas, with the help of certain beings, by creating an energy bubble. Will not go into it further. It is not something for most and those it would suit would know it anyway.
Moving up from the astral realm is the most common way.
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