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29-10-2012, 02:13 PM
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i think toolite shouldn't ask questions she's not prepared to see answers to and respond to them as an engaging adult
in my post, i wrote that I believed the post had racist undertones (intential or not)
---- to offer a statistical fact, 'black' people in america are more likely to be muslim than spiritualist.
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29-10-2012, 02:34 PM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Catalina Island, California
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Originally Posted by MMM
i think toolite shouldn't ask questions she's not prepared to see answers to and respond to them as an engaging adult
in my post, i wrote that I believed the post had racist undertones (intential or not)
---- to offer a statistical fact, 'black' people in america are more likely to be muslim than spiritualist.
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MMM--Just to demonstrate that you can find statistics to bolster any idea, here are Pew Poll figures (U.S.) from 2007 which says "Compared with other racial and ethnic groups, African-Americans are among the most likely to report a formal religious affiliation, with fully 87% of African-Americans describing themselves as belonging to one religious group or another,". It does not show Muslim even as a major category of religions of African Americans. Graphs and charts included. The Wiki chart of 2007 shows 0.6% of American population are Muslim: http://www.pewforum.org/A-Religious-Portrait-of-African-Americans.aspx
I did not search for stats in UK or Europe, Africa, Asia--which would vary wildly I would guess.
The more you know....(the more we fight?).
Isle
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30-10-2012, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by IsleWalker
Henri--
Give me an example of some "cultural training" that would change a reading.
But to me, if the psychic/medium is good, they will not make assumptions about what they see but merely record what they see and leave the interpretation to the client.
Lora
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Just my observation, but I've seen psychics refer to demons, energy, entities or dark forces.... referring to the same phenomena... while obviously describing these things according to their personal belief- interpretation. Some see ET beings, some never do, some see demons, some never do ...
and I'm not even distinguishing those who come from Bible backgrounds and how scriptural concepts influence their interpretation.
My point being, we all color what we see spiritually, in the way we express it.
according to our belief systems...(our mental filters) that was my only point. Based on all the readings I've witnessed.
some will agree some disagree, fine with me.
But it's not news that humans are not totally transparent mediums, unless they trance , and leave their intellect behind.
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30-10-2012, 12:11 PM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Catalina Island, California
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Originally Posted by Henri77
But it's not news that humans are not totally transparent mediums, unless they trance , and leave their intellect behind.
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Henri--
I've heard you express this before and I'm just not sure where it comes from. "trance mediums" are the most prone to inject themselves (and some argue that they are part of the trance anyway so it doesn't matter). I became very turned off by the readings of Jane Roberts when I heard "Seth" inserting examples from Jane's life. In fact, because she was ill, I felt it was probably impossible for her not to want the answers she needed. But the trance medium will never admit part is from them. Again, just my opinion. You seem to feel they are inviolate in that way somehow. I've just never understood why.
Lora
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30-10-2012, 03:21 PM
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Henri77.. Do you have a name or names of those that have said they seen demons and dimensional beings?
Glory To God
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31-10-2012, 01:56 AM
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Will send a pm
I share info but don't wish to defend-debate what others do as psychics-mediums.
That's not my role.
Despite the heat,your query enabled us to learn a few things.
If one took issue with every behavior that potentially offended them, and asked everyone to change due to that.... life would be infuriating, and likely rather short.
the ignore option is a valuable idea to avoid forum conflict as well
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