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Old 12-03-2019, 06:45 AM
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Gosh it must be difficult to choose which one you resonate with I'm sticking to ' One God '

It is like choosing the friends you hang out with. Either you get on with someone or you don't. I agree that in the absolute sense God is one, like humanity is one, but how many individual people are there?
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Old 12-03-2019, 10:36 AM
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I think for some reason, my prayers to God just are not heard. Do you think it is possible? What to do ?

Hello Crystalsun,

Do you pray out of habit, or sincerity? Do you thank God for your life, or do you only turn to Him when you want something?

Prayers of the heart will reach Him, always; But if you are merely reciting words or mantras without substance, then it is best not to say anything at all.

I wish you all the best!
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Old 12-03-2019, 12:02 PM
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Praying is a waste of time and does totally nothing. I've learned that the hard way as a former Christian.
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Old 12-03-2019, 05:18 PM
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Since God IS LOVE.
I find it best to pray from and IN LOVE.
Build a relationship with God IN LOVE.
Cast out fears and lack. Be in a thanksgiving and forgiving spirit.
A spirit of well-being. A well overflowing.
These type prayers are in communion.
And an anointing from a Oneness with God.
In true AT-ONE-MENT or atonement.
With these type prayers we can BE
at Peace with others and all things.

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Old 12-03-2019, 05:45 PM
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I think for some reason, my prayers to God just are not heard. Do you think it is possible? What to do ?

Crystalsun,

You probably mean that your prayers are not answered but I would be certain that they are heard. It is an important distinction. People complain all the time about their prayers not being answered. Revisit the Lord' Prayer to understand the reason for this...….we are to pray..."thy will be done". In truth we are actually praying for OUR will to be done. For prayers to be answered and not just heard we need to align ourselves with the will of God.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:12 PM
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Praying is a waste of time and does totally nothing. I've learned that the hard way as a former Christian.

Technically, that's true, but only because there's generally nobody on the other end. To use an earlier analogy, praying in and of itself is like picking up the phone and talking into it without actually dialling the person you want to talk to. You're just talking to yourself or into empty space. If you want to communicate with someone, better have their phone number, or at the very least, know their name, so you can look it up in the phone book (I know, nobody uses landlines or phone books any more, but the analogy still stands). Then you have to make sure that you do have a working phone line, that you are dialling the correct number and that the person at the other end can hear you, which they will tell you over the phone, giving you feedback.

It gets more complicated still, because if you call up someone you don't even know, say Jesus/Jehovah/Krishna, how do you think they're going to react when you start straight away with some hair-brained scheme or totally unrealistic wish?

Just try to call someone on a landline that you have never met and tell them that you'd really like that porsche for Christmas that you think you deserve. How do you think they're going to react? They'll probably just laugh, hang up the phone and get on with their lives.

The gods are not wishing wells, they will help you out if you genuinely need it, but first you have to build up a relationship with them, which takes years and there is a give and take involved, as in any friendship, you must be just as willing to lend them a helping hand whenever it is needed.

I realise this may sound bat-excrement crazy to most people, but I have built up a relationship with certain deities over many years and they did help me out a number of times when I really was in dire need. They've also helped others on my behalf, even visiting a couple of people personally. Of course I don't expect anyone to believe that, but it is what it is.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:40 PM
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Technically, that's true, but only because there's generally nobody on the other end. To use an earlier analogy, praying in and of itself is like picking up the phone and talking into it without actually dialling the person you want to talk to. You're just talking to yourself or into empty space. If you want to communicate with someone, better have their phone number, or at the very least, know their name, so you can look it up in the phone book (I know, nobody uses landlines or phone books any more, but the analogy still stands). Then you have to make sure that you do have a working phone line, that you are dialling the correct number and that the person at the other end can hear you, which they will tell you over the phone, giving you feedback.

It gets more complicated still, because if you call up someone you don't even know, say Jesus/Jehovah/Krishna, how do you think they're going to react when you start straight away with some hair-brained scheme or totally unrealistic wish?

Just try to call someone on a landline that you have never met and tell them that you'd really like that porsche for Christmas that you think you deserve. How do you think they're going to react? They'll probably just laugh, hang up the phone and get on with their lives.

The gods are not wishing wells, they will help you out if you genuinely need it, but first you have to build up a relationship with them, which takes years and there is a give and take involved, as in any friendship, you must be just as willing to lend them a helping hand whenever it is needed.

I realise this may sound bat-excrement crazy to most people, but I have built up a relationship with certain deities over many years and they did help me out a number of times when I really was in dire need. They've also helped others on my behalf, even visiting a couple of people personally. Of course I don't expect anyone to believe that, but it is what it is.

Such a post is motivating for me. I don't know what others believe.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:44 PM
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Technically, that's true, but only because there's generally nobody on the other end. To use an earlier analogy, praying in and of itself is like picking up the phone and talking into it without actually dialling the person you want to talk to. You're just talking to yourself or into empty space. If you want to communicate with someone, better have their phone number, or at the very least, know their name, so you can look it up in the phone book (I know, nobody uses landlines or phone books any more, but the analogy still stands). Then you have to make sure that you do have a working phone line, that you are dialling the correct number and that the person at the other end can hear you, which they will tell you over the phone, giving you feedback.

It gets more complicated still, because if you call up someone you don't even know, say Jesus/Jehovah/Krishna, how do you think they're going to react when you start straight away with some hair-brained scheme or totally unrealistic wish?

Just try to call someone on a landline that you have never met and tell them that you'd really like that porsche for Christmas that you think you deserve. How do you think they're going to react? They'll probably just laugh, hang up the phone and get on with their lives.

The gods are not wishing wells, they will help you out if you genuinely need it, but first you have to build up a relationship with them, which takes years and there is a give and take involved, as in any friendship, you must be just as willing to lend them a helping hand whenever it is needed.

I realise this may sound bat-excrement crazy to most people, but I have built up a relationship with certain deities over many years and they did help me out a number of times when I really was in dire need. They've also helped others on my behalf, even visiting a couple of people personally. Of course I don't expect anyone to believe that, but it is what it is.

My prayers were not childish and unrealistic wishes one would ask a genie, but rather aimed towards my personal future which I've been extremely concerned about (and still do). My god used to be the supreme creator of the universe, aka the god of Christianity. So if not even he is willing to help me what makes you think Thor for example would? All my years of a personal relationship with the supposed one true God who is the ultimate source of love turned out to be a backstabbing and treacherous one, so therefore I have no interest in any other gods unless one of them is capable of proving to me they are worth earning my trust. Should they exist of course.
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:44 PM
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Since God IS LOVE.
I find it best to pray from and IN LOVE.
Build a relationship with God IN LOVE.
Cast out fears and lack. Be in a thanksgiving and forgiving spirit.
A spirit of well-being. A well overflowing.
These type prayers are in communion.
And an anointing from a Oneness with God.
In true AT-ONE-MENT or atonement.
With these type prayers we can BE
at Peace with others and all things.

*****

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This is good, but to be Honest, I don't feel real love towards God. To be honest, I like him, but it is not Love.
The energy from the prayer stays im my head and it makes me feel sick. This is not supposed to be. It wasnt like that before..
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Old 12-03-2019, 06:47 PM
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Crystalsun,

You probably mean that your prayers are not answered but I would be certain that they are heard. It is an important distinction. People complain all the time about their prayers not being answered. Revisit the Lord' Prayer to understand the reason for this...….we are to pray..."thy will be done". In truth we are actually praying for OUR will to be done. For prayers to be answered and not just heard we need to align ourselves with the will of God.

Bigger problem is, that as I wrote after my first post is that, when praying, after that I feel the energy of the prayer staying in the mind and it is driving me like anxiety or similar. Just makes me feel baad, shouldnt be like that.
Thanks for your comment.
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