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Old 16-07-2015, 01:08 PM
nummi nummi is offline
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"Medication is never the solution."

Unless you are ill and need medicine.

Thank the Lord for scientific medicine, dedicated doctors, nurses and health carers, SAR helicopters, the RNLI and the Ambulance Service.

Go and see your doctor Gemini.
False.

Is the reason someone becomes ill because the person never took medicine? Of course not.
The reason someone becomes ill is because their body is deficient of some nutrient or vitamin or mineral, is loaded with toxins, their nutrient-vitamin-mineral ratios are off. Due to the previous they are infected with parasites or candida/yeast. Or are subject to other forms of harmful effects, like EM radiation, excessive and too loud noise, air pollution, water pollution (especially water's molecular structure). Etc.

The body does not need nor want medicine. Medicine is never, absolutely never, the solution.
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Old 16-07-2015, 01:11 PM
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False.

Is the reason someone becomes ill because the person never took medicine? Of course not.
The reason someone becomes ill is because their body is deficient of some nutrient or vitamin or mineral, is loaded with toxins, their nutrient-vitamin-mineral ratios are off. Due to the previous they are infected with parasites or candida/yeast. Or are subject to other forms of harmful effects, like EM radiation, excessive and too loud noise, air pollution, water pollution (especially water's molecular structure). Etc.

The body does not need nor want medicine. Medicine is never, absolutely never, the solution.

false. false false.

never absolute??? sometimes yes and sometimes no. every case is different. medicine has saved many lives. penicillin made a great difference in survival.

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Old 16-07-2015, 01:18 PM
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I consider foods to be medicines and vise versa, so most of the synthetic types in my view are abominations.
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Old 16-07-2015, 01:20 PM
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These are similar cures to the ones I used, it was a Frank Roberts self help book.

http://cnqzu.com/library/Anarchy%20F...n_Ailments.txt

Duodenal Ulcer

An excessive flow of stomach digestive acid, hydrochloric acid, irritates the wall of the duodenum and eventually forms an ulcer. The patient may often suffer years of 'indigestion', biliousness, and general discomfort after eating fatty foods, and much heartburn, before this condition arises.

The first herbal remedy to be taken is meadowsweet, an alkaline herb which will neutralize the acid to start the healing process. Comfrey leaf tea and marshmallow root, taken in wineglassful doses two or three times daily, will soothe and help to heal the mucous membrane lining of the duodenum. Herbal teas should be taken at body temperature, not cold. A cupful of slippery elm should be taken three times daily, made by mixing a teaspoonful of the powder to a paste with a little honey, and gradually adding a cupful of hot water or milk and water. A little nutmeg may be grated on top to aid digestion and to add a different flavour.

The diet must be amended to exclude fried foods, refined carbohydrates, vinegar, spices and pickles. Food should be chewed well.

The Herbal Cure of Duodenal Ulcers by Frank Roberts provides much valuable information.

See also Gastric Ulcer.
Gastric Ulcer

The formation of an ulcer on the wall of the stomach or the duodenum is associated with a certain type of temperament, with stress, irregular hurried meals, and faulty diet. The cause must be attended to by altering diet and also the way of life, if necessary. Herbal teas, both on a regular basis and occasionally to relieve discomfort, will be invaluable. An infusion of meadowsweet will reduce acidity, gentian root taken in two-tablespoonful doses, before meals, will have the dual purpose of influencing liver function and aiding assimilation of food. Chamomile tea influences nervous control of the stomach, relaxing and soothing, easing nausea. It should be taken in wineglassful doses three times daily, with more whenever required.

Slippery elm is essential for all types of gastric disorders, and more so when ulceration has taken place. It has a soothing and healing effect on the stomach lining. Use the slippery elm powder, mixing one teaspoonful to a smooth paste with a little honey, gradually adding a cupful of hot water or milk and water. A little nutmeg may be grated on the surface if desired. This drink should be taken at least twice every day. Comfrey tea is also healing. All herbal teas should be taken warm, at body temperature, when taken for gastric disorders. Golden seal is a most valuable herb for ulcers and other gastric disturbances. It forms the main constituent of a number of excellent remedies: Roberts' Golden Seal tablets, Gerard Golden Seal compound tablets, and others.

It is often necessary to take nerve remedies to promote a more relaxed state of mind and body before a gastric ulcer can be overcome. Chamomile has already been mentioned. Balm can be very relaxing; it was stated by an ancient herbalist to 'make the heart merry', and has been found particularly helpful for nervous indigestion and nervous colic. Marjoram has an equally good reputation; the fresh herb chopped and sprinkled on salads, the dried herb used in cooking or a cupful taken before or after meals (1/2 teaspoonful to a small teacup of boiling water, covered and left to cool) will reinforce the other remedies. See Nervous Disorders, page 105, for more information.

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Old 16-07-2015, 01:24 PM
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false. false false.

never absolute??? sometimes yes and sometimes no. every case is different. medicine has saved many lives. penicillin made a great difference in survival.

kk
In this case, yes absolute.
Medicine, those drugs, pills, and such. That the medical industry is making. Are absolutely never the solution.
Those things are poisons and toxins that cause harm in many ways.

That penicillin made a great difference in survival? Was the reason that the situation occurred that there never was penicillin before? Or was the reason something else entirely?
Research and think deeper, because you don't know what you are talking about.
And, what does the body need, what is the cause of health problems? Everyone seems to focus on alleviation and supposed solution. But what about what actually caused them in the first place?
You find the cause, you find the cure. The cause is never the lack of medication.
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Old 16-07-2015, 01:30 PM
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In this case, yes absolute.
Medicine, those drugs, pills, and such. That the medical industry is making. Are absolutely never the solution.
Those things are poisons and toxins that cause harm in many ways.

That penicillin made a great difference in survival? Was the reason that the situation occurred that there never was penicillin before? Or was the reason something else entirely?
Research and think deeper, because you don't know what you are talking about.
And, what does the body need, what is the cause of health problems? Everyone seems to focus on alleviation and supposed solution. But what about what actually caused them in the first place?
You find the cause, you find the cure. The cause is never the lack of medication.

you are way over the top. absolutes are NEVER right. i do know what i am talking about. the flu and pneumonia was not well survived before. now it is. you need to rethink the extreme. sometimes needed and sometimes not. when i have a deep cut, antibiotics get applied. to do nothing is a mistake.

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Old 16-07-2015, 01:31 PM
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Medication is never the solution.

It may not be the solution but at times is needed ~ one is not to discourage a member from seeking medical advice.


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Old 16-07-2015, 01:42 PM
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Herbs are medicine. Medicines a lot of them come from nature and it's remedies. We would not have digitalis for instance if it wasn't for foxglove. Medicines per se are not bad. It depends upon how they are used and by who. I consider an herbal remedy the same thing basically. An herbal remedy can often do as much damage as human made medicines in the wrong hands.
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Old 16-07-2015, 01:43 PM
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Comments that could discourage a member from visiting their doctor or from following their doctor's advice or prescriptions also fall under this

I for one would question that advice Adrienne, I would say go to the GPs but be very cautious regards the GPs advice , I know this from experience of myself and others and also data like this

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...ath-in-us.aspx


In a June 2010 report in the Journal of General Internal Medicine, study authors said that in looking over records4 that spanned from 1976 to 2006 (the most recent year available) they found that, of 62 million death certificates, almost a quarter-million deaths were coded as having occurred in a hospital setting due to medication errors.
An estimated 450,000 preventable medication-related adverse events occur in the U.S. every year.
The costs of adverse drug reactions5 to society are more than $136 billion annually -- greater than the total cost of cardiovascular or diabetic care.
Adverse drug reactions cause injuries or death in one of five hospital patients.
The reason there are so many adverse drug events in the U.S.6 is that so many drugs are used and prescribed – and many patients receive multiple prescriptions at varying strengths, some of which may counteract each other or cause more severe reactions when combined.
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Old 16-07-2015, 01:45 PM
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Herbs are medicine. Medicines a lot of them come from nature and it's remedies. We would not have digitalis for instance if it wasn't for foxglove. Medicines per se are not bad. It depends upon how they are used and by who. I consider an herbal remedy the same thing basically. An herbal remedy can often do as much damage as human made medicines in the wrong hands.

You need to ask why these drugs are made, the driving factor IMO is profit, a new synthetic drug means you get a revenue stream, its a crazy situaution, it is not a good business model to cure people as then you lose customers
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