Vibe stage, what to do next?

[PUGLI]

That day i had 6h of sleep, i was pretty tired and went to sleep didnt attend to astral, so i layed on my left arm my comfortable position and closed my eyes the whole next 20 - 30m i was half sleep half awake cant explain it, it felt like pure thoughtless in sleep mode while 10% awake, after awhile i saw something closing and had the feeling i can summon the vibration and i did but it felt weak so i increased it like a radio, it was a powerfull sensational i got amazed how can i control my vibe? i never did it before usually i dont know what to do while the vibe occurs and that thought get me up :(
i wonder if thats my trick to get OOBE, can i redo it or its luck...
i succeed only one time to astral but had alot of vibe stage..

[Tobi]

When you got out of body that one time before as you said....what did you do to get out?

Usually when the vibrations start you can let them go up and down your body, focus on them getting stronger and keep that focus, then simply step out of body/get up out of bed just the way you would do physically and normally/float out/do a back-flip....or many other simple ways of leaving the body.

[PUGLI]

Originally Posted by Tobi

When you got out of body that one time before as you said....what did you do to get out?

Usually when the vibrations start you can let them go up and down your body, focus on them getting stronger and keep that focus, then simply step out of body/get up out of bed just the way you would do physically and normally/float out/do a back-flip....or many other simple ways of leaving the body.

actually nothing my astral body started to float by itself, sometimes I totally ignore the vibe and ending up in sleep paralysis, i just need to focus the vibe and try the rope method?

[Carnate]

If I let the vibrations happen naturally, they come on in a big rush.. a big rush. If I'm a little impatient, I can try to get the vibrations going manually, but if I attempt this too soon (before my physical body is 'asleep' enough), it takes a fair bit of persistence and patience to build up enough energy/vibrations to astral travel. How powerful this 'manual vibration initiation' is depends on what state of relaxation your body is in, how soon you've eaten (and what you ate), and to a lesser extent, how much control you have over the energy.

Once the vibrations are at a high enough level, or if they happen naturally, I simply imagine myself moving, or imagine that I'm somewhere else. Seems to work pretty well. I don't like to try the roll out or rope methods.. they both work on imagination, and it's easier for me to to simply imagine 'moving'. If the vibrations aren't strong enough, you'll get a heavy or sluggish sensation, or you'll start tensing your body as you try to move.. which is counter productive.

Just be patient. Imagine that you're moving. If it doesn't work, increase the vibrations and try again. This can take some practice when first starting because it's easy to be excited about the event, which produces hormones that wake up your physical body. You have to work on remaining calm and relaxed as much as increasing your vibrations.

[Kitōh]

In the Vibe stage just breathe. From my experiences, getting excited does not mean you will fail the attempt. It is hard not to get excited when going through this stage but you have to contain it. I try to keep the excitement in my 'mind' but there is a point where too much mental excitement will trigger bodily excitement. Bodily excitement can be felt like little needles and heat/ sweat around sensitive areas. If you have failed to contain the excitement then your body will quickly heat up and your link to the 'astral' state is weakened.

I have managed to project while being bodily excited but my experience was worse and much less focused. Vision was a mess and I just felt like i had very little control of my self. The separation stage would also have to be 'forced' as the vibrations would not carry me out. (normally the vibrations lead to very easy and smooth separation if I stayed in check)

So when in the vibe stage, breathe and observe.

I think it is better if you figure it out your own way. Reading too many ideas can impair you when the moment comes.

You will make it by yourself if you focus well

[PUGLI]

Originally Posted by Carnate

If I let the vibrations happen naturally, they come on in a big rush.. a big rush. If I'm a little impatient, I can try to get the vibrations going manually, but if I attempt this too soon (before my physical body is 'asleep' enough), it takes a fair bit of persistence and patience to build up enough energy/vibrations to astral travel. How powerful this 'manual vibration initiation' is depends on what state of relaxation your body is in, how soon you've eaten (and what you ate), and to a lesser extent, how much control you have over the energy.

Once the vibrations are at a high enough level, or if they happen naturally, I simply imagine myself moving, or imagine that I'm somewhere else. Seems to work pretty well. I don't like to try the roll out or rope methods.. they both work on imagination, and it's easier for me to to simply imagine 'moving'. If the vibrations aren't strong enough, you'll get a heavy or sluggish sensation, or you'll start tensing your body as you try to move.. which is counter productive.

Just be patient. Imagine that you're moving. If it doesn't work, increase the vibrations and try again. This can take some practice when first starting because it's easy to be excited about the event, which produces hormones that wake up your physical body. You have to work on remaining calm and relaxed as much as increasing your vibrations.

I dont get excited anymore the vibe stage feel nice actually I really love the sensation, today I had it again went to sleep on empy stomach tried to astral I visualized scene like it was in-real life, I falled asleep and after hour woke up closed my eyes and boomm the vibe hit me again, it was low so I increased the vibe and moved it up and down like a wave, i tried to float and nothing happened after 1 minute it went off...