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Old 18-12-2017, 05:23 AM
akez24 akez24 is offline
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i aint into that, back and forth chit-chat, i ad lib it. matter fact ima end that. money dont function

there HAS to be another way than money and the valuing of material objects.
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Old 25-12-2017, 04:17 PM
lemex lemex is offline
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Originally Posted by Kioma
Even so, the world looks radically different to a honey bee or a sea urchin, for example.

"Seeing things as they really are" begins with the realization that even our most fundamental perceptions are not 'real', not really. Our perceptions, as humans, begins with perception in the 'human' context - but again we see how we take what we percieve for granted as 'real'. It isn't.

Interpreting perception is a whole other level of cognition, worthy of discussion at great length in it's own right.

The bee already knows what it must know to thrive as do all things. All physical things have built in every (living) thing their knowledge not our knowledge. Everything seems to have properties or information to them. The sea urchin has no need nor can it use what the bee sees just as the bee cannot see or use what the sea urchin sees before it. It is not disillusion but information.

What is the value of understanding the whole. The human loves the fragrance of the flower, even the sight of it. Even the bee sees it but it sees a different wavelength in the spectrum of light we human don't see. We have no need to see it, it serves no apparent purpose to. If fact if we could this means that quality would be taken from another we have. To see in the spectrum of the bee might mean we borrow from how well we hear, a trade off. So what is real. Humans and bees see the flower.

If I can show there exists a different spectrum of light that that is real. Our perception is important for a reason. The question is, is there a purpose of or to perception where each live side by side.
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Old 25-12-2017, 04:27 PM
lemex lemex is offline
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Originally Posted by happy soul
Thanks for sharing your thoughts everyone.

I think both need to be seen clearly. Lack of love and fear are illusions. That's the absolute. If someone is unkind, we should know that there wasn't a real attack (the absolute), and we would ideally see the illusion (the relative) clearly also. For example, sometimes people see an apparent attack as more unloving (in the illusion) than it actually was.

Wise words, wiser experience. Lack of love and fear are not illusions but build them is how I put it. Our house.
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