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Old 14-07-2017, 07:48 PM
Melahin Melahin is offline
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Maybe I just still do not understand soul contracts? because I see that you incarnate through a desire to experience life, and all the possibilities it holds, not to set boundaries to what you can achieve... desire does not work that way; yet if you at some point in life desire to die, then that desire will equally find a way to manifest. So maybe it is just that sometimes the waters get muddy when we step into them, and sometimes we loose the sight of what we truly wanted
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Old 14-07-2017, 10:20 PM
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Maybe I just still do not understand soul contracts? because I see that you incarnate through a desire to experience life, and all the possibilities it holds, not to set boundaries to what you can achieve... desire does not work that way; yet if you at some point in life desire to die, then that desire will equally find a way to manifest. So maybe it is just that sometimes the waters get muddy when we step into them, and sometimes we loose the sight of what we truly wanted

As I understand, soul contract may be anything you, other souls and your angelic guides agree before incarnation. The goal may be acquiring new experiences in physical world, settling karmic debts, some global mission, personal spiritual development, etc. , but usually it is a combination of the above. Boundaries and time in 3D are different from 4D+, so a soul or a group of related souls may combine and use multiple embodiments simultaneously in the past, present and future. Actually, only a portion of the soul energy is incarnated in your physical body, the rest is left in the dimension where it was and it is your higher-self.

This is like choosing a script and role in a theater or movie to acquire certain artistic skills. From the soul perspective you know that even if in the middle of the performance your physical vessel dies, for instance, in a war, in an accident, from disease, drug abuse, etc., you will just take off your artistic wardrobe and get back home, so why bother to fear death :) ?

Take, for instance, Dean Potter who wants to experience thrill and excitement from extreme high-lining without using any safety equipment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVaTsulE5Z0
Can he get such experience in 4D+ ? No way :) !

It is important that even in case of premature death of some key actor his/her acting partners and the audience will improve their skills too and act accordingly by the end of their own life roles.

Take a newborn girl who happen to become the only child possible for a woman and who dies within a couple of days after her birth in order to punish her mother and let her suffer for the rest of her life for what she did to her in their previous life. The subject becomes clear if you accept the above was in their soul contracts.

Besides energies of your higher-self and other souls involved in your soul contract, the 3D life events also depend on the energies coming from transiting celestial objects, e.g. Sun, planets, asteroids, etc. that could dramatically change our mood, emotions and behavior including forcing us into depression and even suicide.

Interestingly, there have been billions souls in line to incarnate at this time of Gaia and humanity transition back to 5D in physical form, so there have been a certain selection process monitored by the guides to choose only those souls who can really contribute and be recognized :).
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Old 14-07-2017, 11:02 PM
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You are right.

" .. In day-to-day life this means once your first Saturn Return begins (sometimes as early as 26), anywhere you are being immature or not taking responsibility for your actions, Saturn will come down hard on you. And by hard I mean seriously-life-impairingly-depressingly-hard. Some people feel like they have been cursed during their Saturn Returns, others feel like everything they have worked for is being taken away, and sadly more people are likely to suicide during a Saturn return than at any other time in their lives. ..."
http://www.dirtyandthirty.com/girl-p...irty-thirties/

Interestingly, our second Saturn return is less tumultuous as we have the wisdom and experience of the previous one.
https://www.tarot.com/astrology/saturn-return

My best friend died at 27. Between her dying and me meeting my twin flame within a few months (age 28 for me) I knew something was happening. That's when someone told me about the Saturn Return.

Anyway I wouldn't say she was on the wrong path. In her case many people knew that she knew something/had something/had achieved something they hadn't. She had no money, had the hardest life of anyone I know, lived in a very bad neighborhood and didn't have a car. Regardless of that she was happy at all times, extremely loyal to anyone she called a friend, took good care of her daughter(with no help/partner) lived life in the moment and tried to/found reason to enjoy every moment. Her posts and Facebook and messages to her friends
Were always uplifting. Her last post on Facebook to her friends was that she noticed that these days people don't take the time to appreciate the small things, like moments and laugher with friends or a nice sunny day.
She was happy at allmost all times. I am sure she died at her Saturn return but I don't think it was because she was on the wrong path, I think it was she completed her mission here. When we were small kids she acted and talked like a bitter and grumpy old lady but I loved her none the less lol. I think she just achieved the soul growth that she came here for and thus "completed her contract".

PS she wasn't a celebrity but could have been one! Her funeral was packed...couldn't even find parking!

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Old 15-07-2017, 12:12 AM
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@Monar I am not certain what to answer; like I eat angels if I feel like I am hungry, and I am not certain what this soul thing is. All I know is that every incarnation is made through the desire to be here, and sure sometimes we are not sure what that is when we are here. But like these righteous Christians say that the fruit always falls when it is ripe, probably have never seen how fruit hang on the trees each year to rot. So I keep to my point that sometimes people get lost here, and feel like the best solution is to escape.

And if this contract business exist, please show me one!
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Old 15-07-2017, 02:54 AM
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@Monar I am not certain what to answer; like I eat angels if I feel like I am hungry, and I am not certain what this soul thing is. All I know is that every incarnation is made through the desire to be here, and sure sometimes we are not sure what that is when we are here. But like these righteous Christians say that the fruit always falls when it is ripe, probably have never seen how fruit hang on the trees each year to rot. So I keep to my point that sometimes people get lost here, and feel like the best solution is to escape.

And if this contract business exist, please show me one!

I cannot send you a copy of the signed and sealed soul contract as it's proprietary and confidential :) .

If you are serious, you can learn specific types of meditation or astral projections to prove it to yourself.

Another option is to find a regression hypnosis specialist and listen to what did you say on the session recording.

You can talk to those who experienced Near-to-Death Experience (NDE), met their passed away loved ones or spiritual guides and then was advised and pushed back to their physical body to complete their soul contract.

You can also read about NDE on the internet sites and forums:
http://www.near-death.com/experiences/archives.html
https://nhne-nde-network.org/forums/...th-experiences
http://www.near-death.com/science/re...it-guides.html

Sooner or later you will awaken and the knowing will come to you.
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Old 16-07-2017, 02:24 AM
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I don't have much to add here, but just want to thank those that mentioned Saturn Return as mine is probably happening still and it makes lots of sense.

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My best friend died at 27. Between her dying and me meeting my twin flame within a few months (age 28 for me) I knew something was happening. That's when someone told me about the Saturn Return.

Anyway I wouldn't say she was on the wrong path. In her case many people knew that she knew something/had something/had achieved something they hadn't. She had no money, had the hardest life of anyone I know, lived in a very bad neighborhood and didn't have a car. Regardless of that she was happy at all times, extremely loyal to anyone she called a friend, took good care of her daughter(with no help/partner) lived life in the moment and tried to/found reason to enjoy every moment. Her posts and Facebook and messages to her friends
Were always uplifting. Her last post on Facebook to her friends was that she noticed that these days people don't take the time to appreciate the small things, like moments and laugher with friends or a nice sunny day.
She was happy at allmost all times. I am sure she died at her Saturn return but I don't think it was because she was on the wrong path, I think it was she completed her mission here. When we were small kids she acted and talked like a bitter and grumpy old lady but I loved her none the less lol. I think she just achieved the soul growth that she came here for and thus "completed her contract".

PS she wasn't a celebrity but could have been one! Her funeral was packed...couldn't even find parking!
She seems to have been a wonderful person.
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