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Old 23-09-2018, 04:35 PM
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choose carefully who you spend time with
Thanks sky. Yes, this is key and makes all the difference. If one is in a situation where negativity exists as their reality, it can be crucial they take steps to change that reality by quitting a job, or packing up and moving, or doing whatever it takes to improve their situation and environment. This in fact can be the hardest part of all, as many simply are not in a position to do so.
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Old 24-09-2018, 01:49 PM
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the blame goes towards the originator of troubles, satan, but we as humans are also to blame. Jehovah ,(Exo. 6:3), gives us free will, though he expected us to use it for righteousness. still we can allow satan to lead us to doing things that goes against God and Jesus. this is what's said concerning satan ,(1Pet. 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour).

see also (Ephe. 6:11 Put on the whole Armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil). if we don't put on that protection of God, satan will even by trickery lead us to do what he wants. Jehovah God and Jesus created perfect Angels, who also have been given free will. it wasn't his/ their fault if one of the Angels decided that he wanted to praise and worship of the Almighty God.

see ,(Isaiah 14:12-15 “How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’ Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit). peace
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Old 24-09-2018, 04:53 PM
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the blame goes towards the originator of troubles, satan, but we as humans are also to blame.

Christ implied something similar. It all gets me wondering.
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Old 24-09-2018, 06:46 PM
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the blame goes towards the originator of troubles, satan, but we as humans are also to blame. Jehovah ,(Exo. 6:3), gives us free will, though he expected us to use it for righteousness. still we can allow satan to lead us to doing things that goes against God and Jesus. this is what's said concerning satan ,(1Pet. 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour).

see also (Ephe. 6:11 Put on the whole Armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil). if we don't put on that protection of God, satan will even by trickery lead us to do what he wants. Jehovah God and Jesus created perfect Angels, who also have been given free will. it wasn't his/ their fault if one of the Angels decided that he wanted to praise and worship of the Almighty God.

see ,(Isaiah 14:12-15 “How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’ Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit). peace






Originally Posted by jojo50
the blame goes towards the originator of troubles, satan, but we as humans are also to blame.




So it's satan and humans.
I know what humans are but who's satan
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Old 24-09-2018, 06:49 PM
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Christ implied something similar. It all gets me wondering.


Best to put your ' wondering ' into positive and leave the negative behind, I'm sure it will serve you better.
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Old 24-09-2018, 06:59 PM
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Old 24-09-2018, 07:09 PM
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It's like an echo chamber. Two pages of helpful ideas and suggestions, and then we're right back at the beginning again, blaming some negative entity. Shoot me somebody.



No I wouldn't shoot you, besides, that's a very negative thought


Yes I see your point, if some put as much energy into positivity rather than negativity their lives would change. They seem to hone in on any post's that contain satan/evil/sin/hell etc: oh the joys of living


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Old 24-09-2018, 08:07 PM
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They seem to hone in on any post's that contain satan/evil/sin/hell etc: oh the joys of living
I deleted my post, you're exactly correct, waste of time.
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Old 24-09-2018, 11:34 PM
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The thing is I *really* do wonder where all the badness in the world comes from. There is so much of it. Is it all coming from me? If not then where does it come from? Who is RESPONSIBLE for it?

Oh the questions.
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Old 25-09-2018, 07:58 AM
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...where all the badness in the world comes from. Who is RESPONSIBLE for it?
I just checked, and I see you've created over 400 threads like this one. The common theme in the threads I've read is that you pose a question, and then affirm those responses that fit with your philosophical views while arguing against those views which don't fit.

The answer to your question then is obvious: you're a religious person and you gravitate towards religious explanations. Therefore choose whichever religious explanation fits your understanding. And there you have it: that's where badness and evil comes from.

Past that, here you are still looking to attach blame to something as being responsible for evil, in a thread in which you bemoan the fact there is so much blame in the world. There is nothing left to say, sky and I already explained it.
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