What do you think happens when we die?

[Peachboi]

I have heard from a few perspectives, all deriving from what they were taught as children from their parents. I would just like to add to those perspectives. I would like to hear what everyone thinks happens when you die and why.

For example; I have read some of Sylvia Browne's book on the afterlife and how she was sent to an unearthly, magical realm in which she was met with her deceased family members, friends, pets, etc.

Do you think we go somewhere beautiful, and stay there? Do you believe we come back? Any other information included is appreciated as well.

[inavalan]

When one dies they wake up to be the essence / soul / higher-self / whatever that incarnated into them.

We don't "come back" (aka re-incarnate). The essences that incarnated as us will have other incarnations.

Whatever Browne describes is her subjective perception of what happens; it isn't how "is" over-there; it is filtered through Browne's imagination.

[Ghost_Rider_1970]

For me I believe that we are all the very fabric of the Universe. So from this state of Cosmic Consciousness we incarnate; have our life experience as the Universe; and when we die return to the Cosmic Consciousness from where we came - without any conscious awareness.

Consequently, I don't believe in an afterlife; conscious retention; or individual reincarnation. As once my time in my concentrated conscious form is over, I will simply cease to be.

Ordinarily this may seem somewhat bleak if we see ourselves as isolated individuals... crawling around a rock circling a sun. Blinded by what is in essence a limiting and restrictive illusion. As only once we see beyond our own individuality, and no longer consider ourselves as isolated beings with a soul in a body rather than our body being the Soul of the Universe, do we realise that we as the Universe are already eternal. As after we die will effectively live on through everyone and everything.

With my hand on my heart I find this so beautiful. Where we can sometimes be distracted by what we want something to be, rather than what something is. As when we understand this perfect balance of life and death do we see real beauty in the world and everything around us with complete acceptance.

[Starman]

I have a more metaphysical point of view. We are a sensory experience; even if we feel numb. Crying, sadness, laughing, or the feeling of joy, are all sensations. Our experience with this physical world is one of sensations, and sometimes we say that something is “sensational” when it brings a heightened sense of sensation.

Our senses help us interpret the outer world but they also go deep within us and guide us on our inner journey. We have outer sight and we also have inner sight, we have outer hearing and also inner hearing, smell and tastes of the outer world become sensing within us, and we can feel things in the outer world with our skin, but we can also feel within our own self. Feeling, or touch, is the primordial sensation on which all other sensations are based.

In and out-of-body experience our senses become more dynamic than they were when we experienced them through a human body. When you leave your eyeballs behind everything appears much more vivid, almost like and LSD trip. Hearing is heightened, smelling and tasting are incredibly full bodied, and how you feel may seem surreal when you are not experiencing through a human body. The experience seems more real, more solid, then the experience you had in a human body. It is a different dimension from the three-dimensional physical world.

You just may feel much lighter outside of your body than you did inside of it. You may see what you have been carrying because your thoughts and emotions, which you have held on to are not masked by a physical body. If you are carrying nothing, or very little, then you will see your self as very clear and translucent; invisible to the human eye, but then when you leave your body you are not looking at your self through human eyes. Basically it is a much different sensory experience.

There are various realms beyond this physical world and which realm you end up in depends on how conscious you are of your own inner light; how much you have embraced and experience your deeper spiritual self. Humility and humbling ego can take you a long ways. Ego is the only thing that is afraid of the transition we call “death.” Fear will hold you back, as will arrogance, etc. By being held back I mean not being able to enter the vaster, grander, realms. The very fabric of the grander realms are made of love, they are intoxicating, and you will see that you are also made of love, even greater than what we imagine love to be.

Whatever realm you go into, you will receive a body that is similar to that realm. Like here on Earth our physical body is two-thirds water, like the Earth, and beyond this Earth if you go into a gaseous, or airy, realm then your body will be similar to that, etc. There are various realms which have various qualities. You go to a realm similar to osmosis; you rise to the realm that you are capable of rising to. According to your own conditioning or lack of conditioning. It’s all about consciously returning to the source, our true and only home.

In my opinion it is best to have no conditioning, allowing yourself to be empty and naked as you travel your journey. There is no punishment and nothing can get you unless you open to it and allow it to come in. If you embrace love that will protect you. I used to tell this to dying people who I worked with. Stay centered in the moment at the time of death, don’t anticipate or look forward to anything. Stay quiet inside and allow the flow to carry you. There is no good or bad, there is only your judgment of what is good and what is bad. Enjoy this incredible fantastic journey.

This has been my experience, yours may be different. Our experience of life beyond our physical body will be as unique as we are; after all, we are looking at ourselves and returning to ourselves. In my opinion life is the Self reflecting itself to itself. Peace and good journey.

[Lord_Viskey]

(Inavalan said :

"Whatever Browne describes is her subjective perception of what happens; it isn't how "is" over-there; it is filtered through Browne's imagination."

GR70 said :

"For me I believe that we are all the very fabric of the Universe."

Starman said :

"There are various realms beyond this physical world and which realm you end up in depends on how conscious you are of your own inner light"

Maybe its more important for you to see this issue from the perspective of a "lowly" single-souled mortal, in their perspective of "looking up" at reality, rather than by looking from the "spirit/soul/consciousness" perspective" of "looking down" at it, but I don't consider our mortal perspective as anything more meaningful than just being another expression of something much larger, Infinite, and eternal ...

- specifically : "Intelligent Design" (this is not the one associated to the Creationists - my philosophy is more encompassing than that).

If you care to share the eyes of someone "looking down" upon Reality, rather than up at it, then here is a link to my philosophy -
... "filtered through my imagination" (as Invalan points out);
... associated to the division between physical matter (fabric of Universe is only half & temporary aspect of it), (as GR70 alludes to), and Infinite Consciousness;
... being associated to the other, of the "various" realms (which Starman speaks of).

https://heaventology.weebly.com/lord...l-lineage.html

[Lord_Viskey]

However, if you prefer to look upwardly, I also have a philosophy from this perspective at :

https://heaventology.weebly.com/soul...rd-viskey.html

[Starman]

Originally Posted by Lord_Viskey

If you care to share the eyes of someone "looking down" upon Reality, rather than up at it,

In my opinion there is really no such thing as "up" or "down" and I do not mention any such directions in my post.
What you have shared is your interpretation of my post, but I mentioned nothing about looking up or looking down.
How can you have a up or down, a high or low, in the midst of infinity? We all exist in the midst of infinity at this
very moment. There is no place where infinity is not. You have introduced the concepts of up and down here, not me.

We say that people who live in Australia are at the bottom of the world but when they point to the sky they are
pointing up. All direction is circular in my opinion; we come into this world and then we leave, completing a circular
motion. Healing takes place when we do full-circle work. Everything, including grander realities, exist right here,
right now, with us. If you are interested in my point of view we can further discuss it here in this forum. Peace.

[Lord_Viskey]

Just consider my "up or down" as a figure of speech.

Most people see the "disincarnate realm" as existing upon a different level of reality from physical solidity.

In death, the "physical solidity" eventually disintegrates away leaving energy at a "higher" level of existence. (i.e.: certain higher energy vibrations require "different" tools to observe than "certain" "lower" energy vibrations).

In my opinion, this is true at "any level of 'Infinity' where a pinpoint has to be placed" (for the sake of conversation).

Just take the terminology as a "courtesy of modern convention" where language has to symbolize & represent the reality experience of which I speak.

Under normal circumstances, Mind is non-dual and free from conceptual elaboration - yet you asked each of us to "express our own conceptual elaboration" ... that is all that has occurred here.

Nothing to get "hung-up" on.

[Starman]

Lord Viskey, thank you for the further explanation of your perspective.
We all use various terminology and words to describe that which is beyond thoughts
and words, and although words can have power, energy behind them, in this online medium,
where words dominate communication, I do take them lightly and not get hung up on them.

In my experience there are no levels, and when I say “my experience” I am referring
to out-of-body experiences and intra-dimensional experiences which I have had over the
decades. I have been doing yoga and quiet meditation for more than 40-years, and have
seen hundreds of people die, been with them as they took their last breathe.

I have shared many stories about this in my previous posts. So what I speak of is my
experience but I am aware that others may have a different experience, or different
philosophy, or perspective and way of seeing things. For me all of the dimensions exist
right here, right now. We go deep within our physical state of being to expand beyond
our physical state of being.

In that expansion we find that our physical body is inside of us, inside of our own
consciousness, and we are not in our body. Some call this experience “cosmic consciousness,”
but it is actually beyond words. Taoism teaches that “nothing in the universe is what we
call it here on earth.

I do not follow any particular religion or label the path, because I am aware that I am the
path which I am on. It is a different perspective, not better or worst, just unique to my own
experience. Peace and good journey.

[hoodat]

Originally Posted by Peachboi

I have heard from a few perspectives, all deriving from what they were taught as children from their parents. I would just like to add to those perspectives. I would like to hear what everyone thinks happens when you die and why.

For example; I have read some of Sylvia Browne's book on the afterlife and how she was sent to an unearthly, magical realm in which she was met with her deceased family members, friends, pets, etc.

Do you think we go somewhere beautiful, and stay there? Do you believe we come back? Any other information included is appreciated as well.

After 87 years of meditation and study here are my personal conclusions. First of all, we do not die with our bodies. We discard them like worn out clothing.
Secondly we do not end up in some static place of eternal bliss; no matter what our lifestyle has been we continue to develop and learn. There is no eternal rest. That would be extremely boring.
What happens depends to a large extent on what we make happen. We choose whether to return in a physical body or to remain as spirit and go on in that direction. There may be other paths that we cannot perceive in our present state. We may receive a great deal of help and guidance if we ask for it either before or after death.
Storyteller expressed it well when he said, "You are eternal. Before the Earth was you were and after death you still shall be".
I have expressed these things as fact but whether you accept them as such or not is up to you but I ask that you think on them before either accepting or rejecting them.
Thanks for the use of the hall.