Which came first? Light or Sound?

innerlight, I don't mean to sound rude, but did you mean to say it that way? that sound is faster than light? Light is something like 10 million times faster than light, so I'm not sure I understand. I think I get what you're saying as for the perception of sound or light, but in that case, wouldn't it be light that came first?

Also, although the perception part is interesting too, I was more referring to which "type" of vibration existed first. I realize they are both types of vibrational waves, but they are different types. You could keep raising the frequency of sound, and I don't think it would ever turn into light because it's a different type of wave. It might create light from a medium it was vibrating hard enough, but I don't think it would actually turn into light. Or would it? I'm not sure.

But that brings up another question. Sound needs a medium. Light does not(althought I guess there's some debate about this. So if sound needs a medium, what created the medium? Was it light?

I've seen both scientific and metaphysical sources saying different things, so that's what made me curious in the first place.

Gracey, could you elaborate as to your reasons?

[Triner]

I'd say it goes this way.

Given:
Matter is a manifestation of electromagnetic energy.
Light is a vibration of electomagnetic energy.
Sound is a vibrations of matter.

Therefore:
Light had to come first, then sound.

[innerlight]

sorry, i meant to say light travels faster than sound.

Scientist says that sound travels slower than the speed of light. That is true. Those sounds are the weaker physical sounds, like the words we speak or the burning of a match. That sound is physical, secondary. It is not in its pure form, which is a white fiery light. Plain and simple, but who knows I could be wrong.

[sound]

All That Is 'birthed the idea' of light and sound, which both burst into being simultaneously ... for all we know of course lol

Gracey, I'm interested in what you're saying, but you keep saying things without explaining them. You said "true sound" is a white, fiery light. Where did you get this from? I'm not disagreeing, but curious where you read or learned this...

Triner, I like the flow of your theory. But you say matter is a manifestation of electromagnetic energy. Doesn't electromagnetic energy come from matter? EM fields are lines of force which are created by attraction and repulsion of particles of matter. Or so science say if I understand it correctly. If this is the case, EM energy could not exist without matter being there first.

But some esoteric theory says that force is what existed first, like the "Fohat" talked about in theosophy, and probably some advanced physics which I don't know about says the same. What do you think?

light is what was created first, then it traveld and became slower, denser and by time sound comes to our ears, we percieve it to be slow because we are on the other side of the spectrum from which the light began. did not read this anywhere or from anyone else, just had a personal spiritual experience and this is what i have learned from it.

if you take a bible take on it or the necronomicon, the deep waters was there first. chemicals....paul in the bible says that fire and water create light. fire is light born out of the water. fire produces air...a different set of chemicals....and creation goes on.

Interesting Gracey. So it's from a personal experience. Well it does make some sense. I was just curious where you learned it. Thanks!

Originally Posted by ZeroPointField

Gracey, I'm interested in what you're saying, but you keep saying things without explaining them. You said "true sound" is a white, fiery light. Where did you get this from? I'm not disagreeing, but curious where you read or learned this...

Triner, I like the flow of your theory. But you say matter is a manifestation of electromagnetic energy. Doesn't electromagnetic energy come from matter? EM fields are lines of force which are created by attraction and repulsion of particles of matter. Or so science say if I understand it correctly. If this is the case, EM energy could not exist without matter being there first.

But some esoteric theory says that force is what existed first, like the "Fohat" talked about in theosophy, and probably some advanced physics which I don't know about says the same. What do you think?

Are you referring to kinetic energy, an additional energy of motion?

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"Mass can come from energy. But then where does the energy come from? The law of conservation of energy, also known as the first law of thermodynamics, requires that energy come from somewhere. --God the failed hypothesis

Are you referring to kinetic energy, an additional energy of motion?

Sorry, not following. In what context? I mean vibration is motion, but I assume you mean something more?

Mass can come from energy.

I don't know the book you referred to, and I know this is a quote, but if you're gonna use it, can you explain it? I'm not sure I understand, at least in a scientific sense, how mass can come from energy.