Any one describe the reality of miracle

[rijhumal]

Originally Posted by smewii

if the Universe can spawn out of nothingness, why is people so surprised about miracles? we already know scientifically that some things that have no logical, explainable basis, yet there they are... the big bang is one of them like I said, another one is the Gödel's incompleteness theorems... I think that's something our brain just can't understand because it is part of this reality, while some of that which we consider supernatural is not.

Thanks for guidance.same situation here and trying to come out of vicious cycle

[iamthat]

Miracles are not supernatural, they are simply governed by natural laws which science has yet to discover. We take television for granted because the laws which make TV possible are now understood, but someone from 200 years ago would consider television to be magical and miraculous.

In the same way, the apparent miracles of healing, invisibility, levitation, manifestation etc are a cause for wonder, dispute, ridicule etc, depending on a person's perspective. Such miracles are simply demonstrations of natural laws which are currently unknown to most people.

Regarding saints, I cannot take Catholic saints seriously. A bunch of old men sitting round deciding who should be given the label of saint? Totally irrelevant. And yet, if you pray to such a saint for healing then healing can occur, but this may be due more to the faith of the person praying.

Spiritual literature is full of accounts of saints of India, such as the autobiographies of Yogananda and Sri M. But I suspect that finding such a saint in person would be difficult - true yogis do not usually seek publicity, although they may have publicity thrust upon them.

Peace

[CrystalSong]

I believe we all have the capacity to heal ourselves, others, and preform all manner of miracles after reaching a certain level of conscious evolution. One becomes only limited by their imagination and desire.

Many miracle workers work in relative obscurity, meaning those around them know but they are not seeking public recognition as it comes with many drawbacks. Their intention is to only do their service. I know many miracle workers and healers and am one myself. Even Jesus said something along the line's of 'you will have these abilities and many more'. It becomes the 'natural order' after reaching a certain point raising one's frequency and becoming an open and clean channel for whatever needs done.
After reaching that point on the path of evolving consciousness one's social circle is composed of similar talented people, so knowing Healers and Miracle workers becomes ordinary, each having their own abilities and skill sets or multiple sets.

There are those like John of God whom are with an organization or have one around them which have spread word of them far and wide, there are many others as talented as he though they may not be 'google-able on the internet'. Becoming publically known requires a number of things to fall into place, including the Healer/Miracle Worker actually wanting that.
So fame and ability are not mutually exclusive. One can be famous and not be able to preform miracles and one can be a powerful LightWorker and not be famous. However if you need someone elses stamp of approval before believing there are 'saints' among us, then those can be found too.

Interestingly enough some of the people who the Catholic Church Sainted didn't have that many abilities activated actually. It's rather amusing in fact the relatively low standards of the Church (and many other religions too - not picking on the Catholics per say) in comparison to the actual abilities which are available when one opens fully to them and embodies them.