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Old 28-02-2019, 08:24 AM
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As you allready said you spend decades at it.Are you sure was worth it?
Life it's too short sweetie,and i see no justice in this world.

Your father has to pay for his actions.



And who pays for the actions that made his Father the person he was?

It goes on and on, around in circles.
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Old 28-02-2019, 10:11 AM
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So can you explain how the holy spirit helps?

To a Christian the Holy Spirit comes from something greater than what they are. It comes from a higher source. From a God who is above and beyond us. The Holy Spirit is a greater love and stronger. Therefore it can help us forgive when we cannot forgive by ourselves. It helps us through grace and higher love.
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Old 28-02-2019, 10:42 AM
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To a Christian the Holy Spirit comes from something greater than what they are. It comes from a higher source. From a God who is above and beyond us. The Holy Spirit is a greater love and stronger. Therefore it can help us forgive when we cannot forgive by ourselves. It helps us through grace and higher love.



Ok Honza thanks for your explanation but doesn't God help those who help themselves ?

I am that, I Am

You seem to see God as being separate from you and you need a holy spirit to intervene, that's how I was many moons ago until I woke up.

To each their own.
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Old 28-02-2019, 11:16 AM
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I see what you mean, but I just don't feel very divine. In many ways I feel mortal and fallible. So I try turning to a higher power.
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Old 28-02-2019, 11:20 AM
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TBH this whole God thing is a bit of a shot in the dark. The reality I inhabit is very dark and sinister. There is evil and deceit everywhere. I do understand that I AM. It does help too. But God is a very dark being in many ways. Death is around every corner....I could go on. My hope is that one day reality will lighten up a become good again. Until then I am hanging on for dear life.
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Old 28-02-2019, 12:52 PM
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I just found this thread and it's very interesting what you are telling. Thanks for sharing.
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Old 28-02-2019, 04:13 PM
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I love the example of Christ on the cross.

"Forgive them Father, they know not what they do."
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Old 28-02-2019, 05:29 PM
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And who pays for the actions that made his Father the person he was?

It goes on and on, around in circles.
Now we have to feel sorrow about a father who abused his own child and destroyed his mental health?
And if he remain unpunished,he'll do it again.

These people are vampires.They're allways in search of weak victims..
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Old 28-02-2019, 05:52 PM
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Now we have to feel sorrow about a father who abused his own child and destroyed his mental health?
And if he remain unpunished,he'll do it again.

These people are vampires.They're allways in search of weak victims..




If you want to move on in your life then you have to forgive and try to understand the abuser, people who abuse usually have been abused themselves. Why waste your life carrying hatred around.You say they are vampires but why are they vamljres, there's always a reason behind their behavior.
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Old 28-02-2019, 07:01 PM
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If you want to move on in your life then you have to forgive and try to understand the abuser, people who abuse usually have been abused themselves. Why waste your life carrying hatred around.You say they are vampires but why are they vamljres, there's always a reason behind their behavior.
Why to spend your time trying to understand the abuser?You punish him,and then he'll have all the time to consider why it was wrong for him to act that way.

I doubt if you can move on with your life when you have unresolved issues from the past.

As for the reason,who cares?Do they care about their victims?NO
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