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Old 17-11-2011, 08:35 AM
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Healing from Schizophrenia/Psychosis/Severe MH issues?

Hi all - I have a deep interest in spirituality (& always have done); & have been developing a deepening practise & following a healing path for over 10 years. I am more serious about following a committed spirituality than ever before.

At the age of 25 I was diagnosed with 'schizophrenia' - I went through 7 major episodes of psychosis (each lasting 6 months to a year); 4 hospitalisations in psychiatric hospital; & had severe drug & alcohol problems for 17 years.

I've stayed out of hospital now for over 12 years; been T-Total over 10 years, & have lived independently a long time. I've looked deeply at & researched at very considerable depth the subjects of MH in relation to spirituality; especially in relation to spiritual emergency/emergence/awakening/transformation.

Over the the past 10 years I've worked & trained with a number of experienced spiritual healers - 2 in-particular; & made much progress.

I'm deepening meditation practises & finding a lot more depth & meaning in what I have been through & my life. I smoke tobacco heavily, & am dependant on a low dose of a neuroleptic drug. I dream of being able to successfully withdraw from this neuroleptic, successfully stop smoking, & be able to live a much fuller life; & more fully resolve things.

I get a number of physical ailments; & difficulties with health. A lot of aches & pains; especially in my torso, & other physical ailments, & also many other general health complaints. Doctors continually tell me that all of it is somatic.

I'd like to hear from anyone who has some genuinely knowledgeable advice & experience in these areas? Western society in general is very backward & barbaric in these areas in general; ignorance & fear dominate these subjects - & stigma & discrimination is rampant. The usual response is label & drug them all up - & the majority of people are little help in offering any genuine compassion, understanding, empathy, validation & acknowledgement.

The subject of MH & spirituality is a massively expansive, complex & in-depth area. There are many people out there that have resolved these issues & gone through similar experiences & come through well. But we are all individual, unique; & these areas involve multiple & complex concerns; in both cause & prognosis.

Any genuine advice is welcome. Thanks.
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Old 17-11-2011, 09:49 AM
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3 Energy Medicine Methods

You’re right about allopathic medicine having a fairly narrow approach in dealing w/ these MH issues. This narrow approach extends to general medical issues too.

Have you ever used EFT? It’s an energy medicine technique. The free information in the below link is more than sufficient.
http://www.eftuniverse.com/index.php...11&It emid=14

I don’t know if this would be useful for you, but experienced energy worker Donna Eden’s book, ‘Energy Medicine’ details numerous techniques.
http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Medicin.../dp/1585426504

Another energy medicine protocol is Jin Shin Jyutsu. ‘The Touch of Healing’ shows other energy medicine techniques.
http://www.amazon.com/Energy-Medicin.../dp/1585426504

All 3 of these energy medicine methods can be used as self help.
I’m not knowledgable about MH issues nor do I have experience in this area.
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Old 17-11-2011, 10:22 AM
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All 3 of these energy medicine methods can be used as self help.
I’m not knowledgable about MH issues nor do I have experience in this area.

Hi Mattie. Thanks.

I'm familiar with EFT; & work with an Energy Healer (for over 2 years) & have trained in it/as well as Reiki & other healing systems.

There isn't much in the way of alternative, holistic, complementary medicine that I haven't looked into; in some degree. I would however like to try more acupuncture, & yogic massage.

It seems that the 'condition' that I've experienced is a multiple & complex, individual personal & environmental mix of factors in cause & prognosis - on many levels - physiological, psychological, & spiritual. I've looked into every theory & perspectives I possible can - from trans-personal psychology (also process orientated/Jungian/& others; & being in long term integrative psychotherapy), & all the past life/inter-life research & spirituality in general (comparative religion/enlightenment), to brain plasticity, epigenetics, early brain development, trauma & stress - to every physiological, psychological & spiritual angle in-between.

I try to acknowledge how far I've come; to honour where I am & what it's taken to get here. I am on the right track - I know what things would help healing more - in regards to general health & healing; especially in regards to more formal meditation practises, exercise, good diet & stopping smoking.

It is however a very difficult area to navigate; especially given the society in which we live, the general attitudes, & the mechanisms of the Western MH system; & biomedical psychiatry.

I feel very damaged still from life & my past history. I have so far found it impossible to beat tobacco addiction. I have been unable to successfully withdraw from neuroleptic drugs. I have very low self esteem & confidence. I've been out of work over 10 years, single 13 years, & living alone for over 10 years as well. I get all kinds of ailments - problems with sleep, anxiety, depression, & all the physical ailments; as well as very odd psychological & emotional states.

I've started to lean towards the ideas that primarily it may be that I have a predominantly physiological condition - genetic/brain chemical/structural. (However caused)

It can be very hard to find any definite or concrete answers to many things. Or to know how much of it all is an issue on spiritual & psychological levels - & how much it's possible to do something about everything. When the research & evidence in gone into at depth - experiences of severely anomalous, non-ordinary & altered states; are a very misunderstood & largely mysterious area - for many reasons. It can be hard to find genuinely insightful & wise understandings in such areas. Ignorance & fear abound; & there is also a lot of very misguided notions about these subjects as well.

Anyway - thanks for your reply.
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Old 17-11-2011, 11:08 AM
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Hi spiritualized

First up a warm welcome to the community :) also ... thanks for sharing a little of your life experience with such openness ... I dont have any advice for you ... just wondering have you seen a biochemist? ... substance dependency obviously causes chemical imbalances, which more often than not, wont always 'self' correct ...
I was also a heavy smoker for 35 yrs and then stopped cold turkey about 2 years ago ... my method was water ... i reckon i come close to completely saturating my cells but it worked ... it is a very rapid, yet relatively harmless (and inexpensive) way to detox the whole body all at once with very little thought ...
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Old 17-11-2011, 11:53 AM
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Hi; thanks for the Welcome & reply. I posted here years ago; before a load of the posts were lost & the forum was rebuilt. I posted a while ago after as well. I haven't posted much; as just don't see what I can realistically gain from it? I tend to post mainly on MH forums - where there is shared difficulties/understanding.

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just wondering have you seen a biochemist? ... substance dependency obviously causes chemical imbalances, which more often than not, wont always 'self' correct ...

No - I haven't seen one. Just a lot of psychiatrists.

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I was also a heavy smoker for 35 yrs and then stopped cold turkey about 2 years ago ... my method was water ... i reckon i come close to completely saturating my cells but it worked ... it is a very rapid, yet relatively harmless (and inexpensive) way to detox the whole body all at once with very little thought ...

It's the cravings that I find so hard when I stop - I've tried everything - literally. I am consumed with very powerful obsessions to smoke when I stop; & feel very odd when I don't smoke. I suppose tobaccos become one of my my main coping mechanisms. I realise that I won't stay stopped until I have a strong desire to want to not smoke; more than I want to - & I don't know how to get that desire?
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Old 17-11-2011, 12:00 PM
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I realise that I won't stay stopped until I have a strong desire to want to not smoke; more than I want to - & I don't know how to get that desire?
Yeah thats it isnt it ... the motivation for stopping was very strong for me because i was having a medical procedure which has been proven not to work as effectively if there is still nicotine in the system. I dont feel like I am completely out of the woods yet ... but so far I have remained clean even though I spend time on a daily basis with other smokers ...
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Old 17-11-2011, 04:34 PM
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Hi spiritulized.


Welcome back to spiritual forums,and you have done well to come of drink like you have, i know that there are a lot of spiritual people in hospital that are classed as being mentally ill,just because they see or hear spirit,
i have being classed as being mental for want of a better word because im a medium, a lot of prescription meds you are prescribed can and do make you worse and the side affects can be worse that an illness itself.
you have done well to get to where you are right now so well done,
my friend works in a psychatric ward and she was telling me that a lot of the ppl there have found reiki to be of great sucsess for them
i dont know if this would suit you or not but it has helped them.

Namaste
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Old 17-11-2011, 05:01 PM
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Spiritualized--

I am not schizophrenic, but I do have it in the family. I did have brain dysfunction kind of problem where certain brain receptors were damaged and were under-responsive, requiring huge amounts of "juice" (glutamate) to trigger the receptors. This created huge amounts of ammonia (byproduct of metabolizing amino acids)in my brain. The body can handle a certain amount, but there is a limit.

I once stumbled on a page on the web from a guy who treated his own bi-polar disorder with amino acids. When he was in the manic phase, he basically used inhibitory amino acids. When in depressive, he used excitatory aminos. He would take a combination of all 20 essential amino acids in both cases to balance out whatever was needed.

I've used this method to treat myself in the past 6 years because medicine really had no answers for me. I researched the mechanism of what was happening so that I thoroughly understood how/why all the myriad of symptoms building up over the last 45 years happened. I had an answer as to why each of them occurred.

I first used the theory that I would start with amino acids that treated the longest-term symptoms first, hoping they would ameliorate the later symptoms.

That didn't really work. I found that I could not tolerate certain aminos, and couldn't tolerate the all-20-essential amino acid combinations. It can happen that when there is imbalance, pH balance of the gut gets disturbed too.

Long story short, it is a largely experimental process. There is not much, really, out there about what each amino acid does, what you should take it with, adverse reactions. At first I would take all the stuff with the amino (vitamin C, B12, Iron, etc. ) but all that stressed the liver/kidneys even more.

But if you read the adverse reactions and keep meticulous notes about how you're feeling, you will be able to know when a particular one is not reacting well.

Obviously, you never introduce more than one at a time so you can monitor how you feel with it. But you will know pretty quickly which ones make you feel better.

There are some that cross the blood-brain barrier immediately. Those were what I used when I could feel the symptoms starting, to cut it off before I had to recover for 10 days.

If you want to PM me, I'd be glad to share what I learned. It should be approached with caution, though, because there can be just as real dangers of over-dosage as with medicines. But the advantages are that (a) they are readily available without prescription and (b) they are reasonably priced and (c) they help repairyour body, not just try to suppress your symptoms, which is what most modern medicine does.

Also, the notes you keep should be kept on computer, so you can search. There would be times where I would get some weird thing--like pain in my tongue. I would remember I had felt this before and have to search back years and find out what I discovered had caused it earlier.

Also, these aminos can interfere with the medications you are taking. You can do some research as to which ones are likely to interfere, but, honestly, the information is really sketchy. Bit pharma is not highly motivated to use these as treatments because they can't be patented. But healing what makes all our proteins, bones, tendons, brain cells, eye cells --with the substance that comprise them --makes perfect sense to me.

I am now back off of everything but I have had to go back on certain ones for a time. Eventually I will function totally normally again. I'm about 85% now.

Good luck in your search.

IsleWalker - Lora

P.S After finding that page from the guy who used them, I never could find it again. It makes me wonder. Either, he got worse or "someone" helped me find that information. The modern equivalent of an angel who just disappears once the work is done.

P.P.S I just recently read Donna Eden's book on Energy Medicine where she has a method of testing what substances will have a positive or negative effect on the body. It is basically that test where you put your arm out and someone tries to put it down (not hard). With positive substances, it will "bounce back". With negative, the arm will lose strength. She has a test you can do by yourself, but I really haven't yet mastered it. But theoretically, if I trusted the answers I got, it could have been invaluable during this process.
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Old 17-11-2011, 05:21 PM
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a lot of the ppl there have found reiki to be of great sucsess for them
i dont know if this would suit you or not but it has helped them.

Namaste

Hi & thanks - I'm fully trained in Reiki, & also some other systems & energy healing. I have worked with people experienced in Reiki, Shamanism & other healing modalities - & it has all been very helpful in my healing path.
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Old 17-11-2011, 05:24 PM
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http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/news-...schizophrenia/

Low functioning thyroid in schizophrenic patients
http://orthomolecular.org/library/jo...n04-p205.shtml

http://www.drrichardhall.com/Articles/hashimoto.pdf

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com...hrenia&search=

Supplement developed for suicidally depressed daughter and has proven helpful for schizophrenics. Might be something to try.
https://www.mytruehope.net/store/pro...?SCID1=&SCID2=

It would be a really good idea to get your thyroid checked...especially since some of the meds used for schizophrenia are fluoride based and fluoride is a goitrogen.

This is the recommended labwork.
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com...ended-labwork/
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