Why do aliens visit us? (if they are real)

[wtc1128]

Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight

So basically it's the same story about the U.S invading other countries for oil. What a pity, and one would have thought beings thousands of years ahead of us would surely have wisened up by now and not make the same mistakes humanity makes over and over again.

Yes... it may be disappointing to our expectations to realize that technological advancement does not mean spiritual or ethical advancement in the Universe. Living in the physical Universe, other races are influenced by the same needs and desires as humanity: the need for resources, the desire for power, the desire for wealth, and so on.

Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight

But well.. I don't really care. They can have whatever resources they're after as long they keep me and my life out of it. If they ever decide to abduct me they will surely come to regret it and realise they abducted the wrong human.

Their presence in the world will have an increasing effect on your life and for future generations if we do not unite and defend our boundaries to space. If you value human freedom, the freedom of self-expression, the freedom to think as an individual, then you should be concerned about activity occurring behind the scenes by these "visitors."

Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight

Also if this is not hogwash I don't think those so-called Allies of humanity are any better though, they probably have different secret agendas about what to do with us. Anyone who watched tons of movies should know by now the true sinister meaning of ''we are here to help you'' or ''we are your allies''.

Valid concerns you've brought up. The Allies are not here in the world for a few reasons.

1.) We're currently far too divided and conflicted as a race to establish any meaningful relationships with outsiders.

2.) The Allies also do not want us to become dependent on them - we are the ones who must make wise and difficult decisions; we must become responsible and united as a race; we must be self-determined.

3.) The Allies recognize that we can not discern friend from foe. If they were to arrive here, how could we tell whether they were the "good guys" or "bad guys?" It's like the Native peoples of America being discovered by Europeans. The Natives could not tell whether the Europeans were there to help or to take advantage of them. The Europeans brought gifts, technology, and we know how that turned out. This is similar to what is occurring today, except it is far more subtle and hidden.

I recognize the authenticity and beneficence of the Allies by what they are promoting and encouraging in the human family; freedom, self-determination, education, and awareness. And they are graceful enough not to interfere here directly because we are the ones who must develop Wisdom.

[wtc1128]

"The visitors are engaged in four fundamental activities in order to gain influence within your world. Each of these activities is unique, but they are all coordinated together. They are being carried out because humanity has been studied for a long time. Human thought, human behavior, human physiology and human religion have been studied for some time. These are well understood by your visitors and will be used for their own purposes.

The first area of activity of the visitors is to influence individuals in positions of power and authority. Because the visitors do not want to destroy anything in the world or harm the world’s resources, they seek to gain influence over those whom they perceive to be in positions of power, within government and religion primarily. They seek contact, but only with certain individuals. They have the power to make this contact, and they have the power of persuasion. Not all of those they contact will be persuaded, but many will be. The promise of greater power, greater technology and world domination will intrigue and incite many individuals. And it is these individuals with whom the visitors will seek to establish a liaison.

There are very few people in the governments of the world who are being so affected, but their numbers are growing. The visitors understand the hierarchy of power because they themselves live by it, following their own chain of command, you might say. They are highly organized and very focused in their endeavors, and the idea of having cultures full of free-thinking individuals is largely foreign to them. They do not comprehend or understand individual freedom. They are like many technologically advanced societies in the Greater Community who function both within their respective worlds and in their establishments across vast reaches of space, utilizing a very well-established and rigid form of government and organization. They believe that humanity is chaotic and unruly, and they feel they are bringing order to a situation that they cannot themselves comprehend. Individual freedom is unknown to them, and they do not see its value. As a result, what they seek to establish in the world will not honor this freedom.

Therefore, their first area of endeavor is to establish a liaison with individuals in positions of power and influence in order to gain their allegiance and to persuade them of the beneficial aspects of relationship and shared purpose.

The second avenue of activity, which is perhaps the most difficult to consider from your perspective, is the manipulation of religious values and impulses. The visitors understand that humanity’s greatest abilities also represent its greatest vulnerability. People’s longing for individual redemption represents one of the greatest assets the human family has to offer, even to the Greater Community. But it is also your weakness. And it is these impulses and these values that will be used.

Several groups of the visitors wish to establish themselves as spiritual agents because they know how to speak in the Mental Environment. They can communicate to people directly, and unfortunately, because there are very few people in the world who can discern the difference between a spiritual voice and the visitors’ voice, the situation becomes very difficult.

Therefore, the second area of activity is to gain people’s allegiance through their religious and spiritual motivations. Actually, this can be done quite easily because humanity is not yet strong or developed in the Mental Environment. It is difficult for people to discern where these impulses are coming from. Many people want to give themselves to anything they think has a greater voice and a greater power. Your visitors can project images—images of your saints, of your teachers, of angels—images that are held dear and sacred within your world. They have cultivated this ability through many, many centuries of attempting to influence each other and by learning the ways of persuasion that are practiced in many places in the Greater Community. They consider you primitive, and so they feel they can exert this influence and use these methods upon you.

Here there is an attempt to contact those individuals who are considered sensitive, receptive and naturally given to be cooperative. Many people will be selected, but a few will be chosen based upon these particular qualities. Your visitors will seek to gain allegiance with these individuals, to gain their trust and to gain their devotion, telling the recipients that the visitors are here to uplift humanity spiritually, to give humanity new hope, new blessings and new power—indeed promising the things that people want so dearly but have not yet found themselves. Perhaps you may wonder, “How can such a thing occur?” But we can assure you that it is not difficult once you learn these skills and abilities.

The effort here is to pacify and to reeducate people through spiritual persuasion. This “Pacification Program” is used differently with different religious groups depending upon their ideals and their temperament. It is always aimed at receptive individuals. Here it is hoped that people will lose their sense of discernment and will become wholly trusting of the greater power that they feel is being given to them by the visitors. Once this allegiance is established, it becomes increasingly difficult for people to discern what they know within themselves from what is being told to them. It is a very subtle but very pervasive form of persuasion and manipulation. We shall speak more on this as we proceed.

Let us now mention the third area of activity, which is to establish the visitors’ presence in the world and to have people become used to this presence. They want humanity to become acclimated to this very great change that is occurring in your midst—to have you become acclimated to the visitors’ physical presence and to their effect on your own Mental Environment. To serve this purpose, they will create establishments here, though not in view. These establishments will be hidden, but they will be very powerful in casting an influence on human populations that are near them. The visitors will take great care and time to make sure that these establishments are effective and that enough people are in allegiance to them. It is these people who will guard and preserve the visitors’ presence.

This is exactly what is occurring in your world at this time. It represents a great challenge and unfortunately a great risk. This very same thing that we are describing has happened so many times in so many places in the Greater Community. And emerging races such as your own are always the most vulnerable. Some emerging races are able to establish their own awareness, ability and cooperation to the extent that they can offset outside influences such as these and establish a presence and a position in the Greater Community. Yet many races, before they even attain this freedom, fall under the control and influence of foreign powers.
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Now we must speak of the fourth area in which your visitors seek to establish themselves, and that is through interbreeding. They cannot live in your environment. They need your physical stamina. They need your natural affinity with the world. They need your reproductive abilities. They also want to bond with you because they understand that this creates allegiance. This, in a way, establishes their presence here because the offspring of such a program will have blood relations in the world and yet will have allegiance to the visitors. Perhaps this seems incredible, yet it is so very real.

The visitors are not here to take your reproductive abilities away from you. They are here to establish themselves. They want humanity to believe in them and to serve them. They want humanity to work for them. They will promise anything, offer anything and do anything to achieve this goal. Yet though their persuasion is great, their numbers are small. But their influence is growing and their program of interbreeding, which has been underway for several generations, will eventually be effective. There will be human beings of greater intelligence but who do not represent the human family. Such things are possible and have occurred countless times in the Greater Community. You have only to look at your own history to see the impact of cultures and races upon one another and to see how dominating and how influential these interactions can be."

From Allies Book 1: "The Challenge to Human Freedom"

[desert rat]

I remember a radio interview given by Travis Walten in 1975 . He described these human looking colons. Take a good look at your neighbors, your hub/wife.

[Dargor]

Originally Posted by desert rat

I remember a radio interview given by Travis Walten in 1975 . He described these human looking colons. Take a good look at your neighbors, your hub/wife.

Yea, I did read about him and his experience, he encountered both goblin-like aliens and funny looking long-haired people in blue jumpsuits. His experience in contrary to other abductees isn't that bad so I have no idea why the guy's been acting like he has the worst life ever. IF he at least speaks the truth, which is debatable.

[keokutah]

Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight

Cool story bruh, doesn't happen every day when an alien surgeon comes to register a forum. Or you have WiFi connection up there in your flying saucer?

I'm sure it does, as there are tons of starseeds and ET walk ins down here on earth right now assisting in the coming times. But you can believe whatever you want to believe.

[Dargor]

Originally Posted by keokutah

I'm sure it does, as there are tons of starseeds and ET walk ins down here on earth right now assisting in the coming times. But you can believe whatever you want to believe.

Ok and what planet you're from?

[Brucely]

If i may quote a movie "theyre talking to us with their minds, and were the one hearing it" so as to say were just as ET as any of them

[wtc1128]

Originally Posted by Brucely

If i may quote a movie "theyre talking to us with their minds, and were the one hearing it" so as to say were just as ET as any of them

That means they have the ability to communicate telepathically, through the Mental Environment. It ia a skill humanity as a whole has not learned yet, so we are very vulnerable to manipulation, deception, and persuasion. They can make us see what we want to see, hear what we want to hear, believe what we want to believe. It is time now to become aware and educated and that is partly why The New Message from God is in the world and why the Allies of Humanity sent their Briefings to the world.

[leilasmum44]

Cool story bruh, doesn't happen every day when an alien surgeon comes to register a forum. Or you have WiFi connection up there in your flying saucer?[/quote]
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Haha u cracked me upp

[Brucely]

Allies of humanity? Sounds like a good book