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12-07-2013, 09:57 AM
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Location: Manchester, UK
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Heaven, Hell & The Spirit World
Hi,
This is very much my opinion, and I totally embrace the idea that we live 'chartered lives' and reincarnate to enhance our Spiritual Development.
So, when we are in the Spirit World, we agree our 'life plans' and have Spirit Guides to help us attain them and Guardian Angels to help protect us.
We also have our own free will, so this could hinder our Spiritual Development. Even so, there is no right or wrong it is just how far each one of us progresses Spiritually.
So, when our bodies die we then go back to the Spirit World. We can remain there, or look to continue improving our spiritual vibrancy by returning to Earth - or other worlds that God created within the universe.
I don't believe in a judgmental God and, no matter what we do in our mortality, God will always welcome us back into the Spirit World with nothing but unconditional love.
So, from my viewpoint, I don't see there being a hell (except for what we create in our mortal lives) just a Spirit World - which is also akin to Heaven. We all just have different levels of Spiritual Development, which may be affected by the life choices that we make.
I am very much learning about my own Spiritual Development and would be very interested in your views.
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12-07-2013, 01:37 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Kentucky,USA
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My opinion is the same as yours! I do believe there is no heaven or hell - everyone goes to the same place. Earth time means nothing in the spirit word, so someone may reincarnate in a short time, someone else centuries later.
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13-07-2013, 01:39 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2012
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I very much agree with you Ghost Rider.
But there can be a "Hell"...it depends how our minds and emotions get trapped. But I do not think this is a place in the Spirit worlds as such. Hell is a state of Being and can be brought about by our reactions to things which happen to us. Painful dreadful things can make us feel terrible states of Being, but in Spirit, there is always healing and help.
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22-07-2013, 10:32 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
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To gain any insight into the spirit world, it is necessary to remember it is not the human world. Nothing in life applies to not-life. There is no separate identity. Nor any need for one. Each fragment is unique, but part-of.
There are certainly no personalities involved.
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22-07-2013, 10:55 PM
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Hi
I don't believe in hell either. Hell is a fear that humans have created. Love does not know vengance, love is forgiveness, compassion and empathy.
We are all from love and will return to love.
To believe in hell IMHO is to read knowledge instead of look to the inner path.
But, everyone to their own.
love
gismo
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24-07-2013, 09:58 PM
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From what I have heard from spirits.....Hell does not exist. Perdition does.It is a form of punishment that spirits choose for themselves for their own growth for choices they might have made--not just in life, but in spirit as well.
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11-08-2013, 04:53 AM
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My personal belief is that Heaven and Hell are the same place.
Wherever our souls go after this life, before we reincarnate, is perceived differently by everyone.
If we racked up a good amount of bad Karma/Karmic debt, we see it as Hell. I don't mean the firey hot place with the devil as it's typically depicted; I think it's just a negative, unhappy sort of thing, where we experience all the unhappiness and pain we caused in this lifetime so our mistakes are pointed out to us, then we reincarnate and are instructed to make up for those mistakes.
If we made good on our Karmic debt or something, then we perceive the next place as Heaven. Again, not the typical depiction of it - probably just something like peace and happiness and oneness with love. Then we reincarnate to spread those feelings and learn what we still need to.
These are just my own ideas. I don't know if this is a common belief or if I'm totally full of it, but it feels right to me right now.
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21-08-2013, 02:39 PM
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Master
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Phoenix AZ USA
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My belief on an after life is from this book called the astral realms . The author discribes areas on the astral planes where people have created different kind of places . There own beliefs dictated there after life. Some are a kind of heaven , some like the kind of live that had while alive , schools , stores , banks , ect. Some the happy hunting ground of the native Americans . A few so believed in hell and knew they belonged there they created that place .
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25-08-2013, 12:04 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Southwest, USA
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I agree with you. Not much to add.
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Originally Posted by Ghost_Rider_1970
Hi,
This is very much my opinion, and I totally embrace the idea that we live 'chartered lives' and reincarnate to enhance our Spiritual Development.
So, when we are in the Spirit World, we agree our 'life plans' and have Spirit Guides to help us attain them and Guardian Angels to help protect us.
We also have our own free will, so this could hinder our Spiritual Development. Even so, there is no right or wrong it is just how far each one of us progresses Spiritually.
So, when our bodies die we then go back to the Spirit World. We can remain there, or look to continue improving our spiritual vibrancy by returning to Earth - or other worlds that God created within the universe.
I don't believe in a judgmental God and, no matter what we do in our mortality, God will always welcome us back into the Spirit World with nothing but unconditional love.
So, from my viewpoint, I don't see there being a hell (except for what we create in our mortal lives) just a Spirit World - which is also akin to Heaven. We all just have different levels of Spiritual Development, which may be affected by the life choices that we make.
I am very much learning about my own Spiritual Development and would be very interested in your views.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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25-08-2013, 12:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by desert rat
My belief on an after life is from this book called the astral realms . The author discribes areas on the astral planes where people have created different kind of places . There own beliefs dictated there after life. Some are a kind of heaven , some like the kind of live that had while alive , schools , stores , banks , ect. Some the happy hunting ground of the native Americans . A few so believed in hell and knew they belonged there they created that place .
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That's what I got, too...from "Life in the Unseen World" by Anthony Borgia...
Found online, btw.
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.*I'll text in Navy Blue when I'm speaking as a Mod. :)
Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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