The frustrations of experiencing cosmic consciouness

[Molearner]

I found this site extremely interesting and informative. Much food for thought and discussion...….

Mystical Experience and the Evolution of Consciousness
A Twenty-first Century Gnosis

by Gary Lachman


It discusses the overload of information upon experiencing cosmic consciousness and the subsequent frustration and/or disorientation that results from this experience. It is cautionary about the expectations that one might have about the desirability of experiencing cosmic consciousness. Apparently one must copy and paste the title to be taken to the site.

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by Molearner

I found this site extremely interesting and informative. Much food for thought and discussion...….

Mystical Experience and the Evolution of Consciousness
A Twenty-first Century Gnosis

by Gary Lachman


It discusses the overload of information upon experiencing cosmic consciousness and the subsequent frustration and/or disorientation that results from this experience. It is cautionary about the expectations that one might have about the desirability of experiencing cosmic consciousness. Apparently one must copy and paste the title to be taken to the site.

This is very interesting...He is my type of mystic!!!

Instead of looking at that book, I went and searched all about a man I have never even heard of before and what ELSE he did first (as I do).

Apart from finding out he was in the 1980's bands Blondie and Iggy Pop, I went on to read quite a few articles he wrote for the Theosophical Society (of which, he is an esteemed member), including this one:
https://www.theosophical.org/publica...-magazine/4240

I really got a lot out of this and I will add him to my YouTube "Guru" list, which includes the likes of Igor Kufayev, Craig Holliday and Sally Kempton...Now, I have a NEW spiritual intellectual who is also on my level of understanding...So thank you very much for this introduction to "somebody new" that I am delighted to read and hear from.

However, it is "break time" now and I never got into Blondie except for ONE song (which is very fitting for this forum btw)...enjoy:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JziVnT0d6tY

[Miss Hepburn]

Or you could click onto this:


https://www.academia.edu/18910463/My...onscious ness


Wow, I got this from the sight...Hermes said,

"Command your soul to go anywhere! And it will be there quicker than your command!"

Any other interesting quotes?

Thanks Molearner, Ms Hepburn et al

[iamthat]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

However, it is "break time" now and I never got into Blondie except for ONE song (which is very fitting for this forum btw)...enjoy:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JziVnT0d6tY

Thanks, Shivani Devi. Took me back to being a student in the late 1970s. Aah, seems like another lifetime.

Peace.

[Molearner]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

This is very interesting...He is my type of mystic!!!

Instead of looking at that book, I went and searched all about a man I have never even heard of before and what ELSE he did first (as I do).

Apart from finding out he was in the 1980's bands Blondie and Iggy Pop, I went on to read quite a few articles he wrote for the Theosophical Society (of which, he is an esteemed member), including this one:
https://www.theosophical.org/publica...-magazine/4240

Shivani Devi,

Thanks for your response. I am gratified and pleased that you took the time to examine this. I was intrigued by the link you provided. I have had an interest in Owen Barfield for a long time and Rilke, of course. For your further interest check out the Wikipedia synopsis of Erich Heller. I think you will find it quite interesting also. I like the fact that Lachman provides the sensitivity of an artist(musical) to musings about the spiritual. This seems important to me because I think there is a tendency for over emphasis on scientific methods being employed to investigate/explain/ understand the spiritual. Just as Barfield speaks of the evolving of consciousness away from the poetic richness of the past to the narrowing of understanding, in part, to the increasing specificity of language. In the Wikipedia piece on Heller he warns of the investigative process(scientific) that tends to elevate the "how" impulse of science at the expense of focusing on the "why". Once again thanks for your attention.

From OP Essay:

A dictionary definition of gnosis give us “immediate knowledge of spiritual truths.”

A more forceful definition is the one I use above: an immediate, direct, non-discursive, perception of reality.

In this sense gnosis is as immediate and direct an experience as being thirsty and drinking cold water on a hot day.

What one knows in gnosis isn’t arrive at by argument, logic, or empirical – that is, sensory – observation.

It can’t be taught in schools as the knowledge associated with episteme can, but the means of arriving at gnosis can and has been taught, not in universities, but in groups devoted to esoteric, that is, inner practice.

I really like that.

He goes on further to say:

The central aim of the devotees of Hermes, whether in Alexandria two millennia ago or among esotericists today, is to achieve gnosis. To be sure, the Hermetists of Alexandria were not the only ones interested in gnosis. As their name suggests, their contemporaries, the Gnostics - early Christian sects that flourished before the rise of the ‘official’ church - also pursued it.

I'm on page 7 and would say this correlates to my insights and limited experiences.

Thanks,

JL

[wstein]

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

...Hermes said,

"Command your soul to go anywhere! And it will be there quicker than your command!"

Here is an opportunity to develop some spiritual icons to click on and spiritual emojis to send in text messages ...