Violence.

[sky]

Why did God condone and order such terrible acts of violence found in the OT? If some believe the Bible to be the ' Word of God ' then you have to believe God was as guilty as the perpetrators or even worse....

A Teenager asked me this question and I answered in my own personal opinion that the OT is not the ' Word of God ' which of course led to more questions and an never-ending conversation which I bowed out off and advised them to do some contemplating....

[sky]

The bible says the Canaanites were wiped out by the Israelites but scientists just found their descendants living in Lebanon.



‘You shall not leave alive anything that breathes. But you shall utterly destroy them’


Well ' God ' got that wrong..... thankfully.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by sky123

The bible says the Canaanites were wiped out by the Israelites but scientists just found their descendants living in Lebanon.



‘You shall not leave alive anything that breathes. But you shall utterly destroy them’


Well ' God ' got that wrong..... thankfully.

Scientists claim the Neanderthal Man disappeared a long time ago but claim some of us,
have up to 4% of their DNA. Is that what happened to the Canaanites' descendants?

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by sky123

The bible says the Canaanites were wiped out by the Israelites but scientists just found their descendants living in Lebanon.



‘You shall not leave alive anything that breathes. But you shall utterly destroy them’


Well ' God ' got that wrong..... thankfully.

Scientist claim the Neanderthal people became extinct along time ago but you and me still have some of their DNA.

As for the Canaanites, the Bible tells a slight different version "And they utterly destroyed
all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep and donkey,
with the edge of the sword". (Joshua 6:21) I do not think all the Canaanites were in that city.

But the Israelite's did not listen to God as they did not kill all of the Canaanites......

Today, some people believe genocide was committed on the Canaanites and God is/was evil based upon this example.

Canaanites belief in child sacrifice, men having sex with boys and other 'perversions. That is why
Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Some people say God did good, whereas others say he did bad. Figure it out, I can't.

[sky]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Scientist claim the Neanderthal people became extinct along time ago but you and me still have some of their DNA.

As for the Canaanites, the Bible tells a slight different version "And they utterly destroyed
all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep and donkey,
with the edge of the sword". (Joshua 6:21) I do not think all the Canaanites were in that city.

But the Israelite's did not listen to God as they did not kill all of the Canaanites......

Today, some people believe genocide was committed on the Canaanites and God is/was evil based upon this example.

Canaanites belief in child sacrifice, men having sex with boys and other 'perversions. That is why
Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Some people say God did good, whereas others say he did bad. Figure it out, I can't.

' Figure it out, I can't. '


I personally wouldn't waste my time trying to work ' Myths ' out. reality is easier

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Scientist claim the Neanderthal people became extinct along time ago but you and me still have some of their DNA.

As for the Canaanites, the Bible tells a slight different version "And they utterly destroyed
all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep and donkey,
with the edge of the sword". (Joshua 6:21) I do not think all the Canaanites were in that city.

But the Israelite's did not listen to God as they did not kill all of the Canaanites......

Today, some people believe genocide was committed on the Canaanites and God is/was evil based upon this example.

Canaanites belief in child sacrifice, men having sex with boys and other 'perversions. That is why
Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Some people say God did good, whereas others say he did bad. Figure it out, I can't.

I suspect why so many people have animosity toward the Old
Testament might be because they never really studied it.

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Canaanites belief in child sacrifice, men having sex with boys and other 'perversions. That is why
Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed. Some people say God did good, whereas others say he did bad. Figure it out, I can't. [/size][/font][/center]

I always thought Lots wife got a bad rap.

That whole story has a weird flavor to it.

Lot offers his virgin daughters to the men of the city
that were banging on his door to sleep with the 2 angels inside
and then Lots wife gets turn to salt for looking back
when the city is being destroyed and then the 2 virgin daughters sleep
with their Father and have kids to continue the family line.

WOW! what a story.

Jesus also says to remember Lots wife. She never does get a name.

lot's name means (veil or covering).
_________________

[sky]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

I always thought Lots wife got a bad rap.

That whole story has a weird flavor to it.

Lot offers his virgin daughters to the men of the city
that were banging on his door to sleep with the 2 angels inside
and then Lots wife gets turn to salt for looking back
when the city is being destroyed and then the 2 virgin daughters sleep
with their Father and have kids to continue the family line.

WOW! what a story.

Jesus also says to remember Lots wife. She never does get a name.

lot's name means (veil or covering).
_________________

Edith in some Jewish Communities.

There are definitely some ridiculous verses to be found in the OT, God must have also had a sense of humour

[davidmartin]

Originally Posted by sky123

Edith in some Jewish Communities.

There are definitely some ridiculous verses to be found in the OT, God must have also had a sense of humour

or God invented humour?

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

I always thought Lots wife got a bad rap.

That whole story has a weird flavor to it.

Lot offers his virgin daughters to the men of the city
that were banging on his door to sleep with the 2 angels inside
and then Lots wife gets turn to salt for looking back
when the city is being destroyed and then the 2 virgin daughters sleep
with their Father and have kids to continue the family line.

WOW! what a story.

Jesus also says to remember Lots wife. She never does get a name.

lot's name means (veil or covering).
_________________

I could address this account...............
but with some having acrimony toward Judaism and Christianity, I prefer relating a modern day account.

I live in one city and another city exist within that city.

One time, that other city was a fun place for some people and for other people, was a place to avoid. The city got over run with people some claim were really nice people whereas others claimed they were drug dealers, prostitutes, etc. Things got so bad, that instead of somebody getting shot over the weekend, it escalated to somebody or somebodies getting killed.

One day I turned on the TV which claimed multiple police agencies were involved in 'cleaning' up that city. I found that hard to believe so I went and looked for myself. There were police on foot, on bicycles, on motorcycles, in cars, in SUVs and a helicopter in the air. The police were from both cities, the county, the State and probably from the Border Patrol.
Each block in that city had at least 1 person being questioned.

Since then, murders in that city are almost non-existent. Rarely do you see a prostitute soliciting
on the streets or somebody selling drugs on the street any more.

Some people claim what happened to that city was terrible whereas others claim is was about time.