I know nothing

Originally Posted by Shabby

The more I know, the more I know: I know nothing LOL.... scary but so freeing.

What is knowledge other than a whole bunch of concepts, information, beliefs? Do we need these in order to be? Who would we be if we had no beliefs?

Person can learn, read, collect, and retain as much knowledge as possible.
But the real truth comes from experience.
Experience is unique to each and as we open ourselves to different views of others, we finally understand life.

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by Shabby

Hey Gods.
No I don't believe one can know one self as knowledge. I feel that when Jesus said Know thy Self he meant "knowing". This kind of "knowing" is not experienced or felt. It's a knowing that you are "It". Any thing "of it" would be knowledge.

If I said I am Vivian Amis, 50 years old, have 4 kids and a grand son, a teacher of spiritrual consciousness and the author of The Essentials of life then I would have identified my self with being my name, my age, my parentship, my passion, my work and so on. Since all of these things are subject to change...I can not be any of these things. Who am I...I truly don't know because who I am can not be known in terms of knowledge as all knowledge is of the mind. And I am not the mind LOL.

Hi Again Shabbs .

I understand your reply and I agree In that respect .

How would you say that an Individual that knows thy self In the context as mentioned above can explain within mind how that realization comes about or what the realization contains .

Do you think In that respect one can know what Is required to know thy self?

x daz x

[Xan]

Originally Posted by Shabby

The more I know, the more I know: I know nothing LOL.... scary but so freeing.

Who would we be if we had no beliefs?

That would be the question, Shabby.

As I let go of my beliefs, who do I discover that I am?


Xan

Only because the deeper we look the more complicated it becomes so the less we feel we know. We know nothing depending on how deep we want to know, how deep we want to know based on the unlimitedness of knowledge. There are no boundaries and if there are they seem an infinity away. How much do we really need to know is what is important. Some things are better left unsolved remain a mystery to be intriguing. Every question is like a tree, we plant the question and it grows there isnt just one answer there are several branches with several leaves and it can be impossible to learn every branch to learn every leaf... Then one day the leaves fall off the branches break the tree will be chopped down and all we have learnt is lost and someone else will plant that seed again. Life is about learning what is needed and nothing more... Don't dive too deep or you find yourself buried in the nothingness feeling lost wondering if you even learnt anything at all....

Originally Posted by God-Like

Hi Again Shabbs .

I understand your reply and I agree In that respect .

How would you say that an Individual that knows thy self In the context as mentioned above can explain within mind how that realization comes about or what the realization contains .

Do you think In that respect one can know what Is required to know thy self?

x daz x

Hey Gods!

He can not....to your first question. In order to communicate through words one uses mind and memory. The difference is that one who knows knows that he is not his mind nor memory and that in truth there is no communication taking place.

As there are many paths and every path that leads to "knowing thy self" is valid, only the seeker knows what is required.

Originally Posted by Xan

That would be the question, Shabby.

As I let go of my beliefs, who do I discover that I am?


Xan

Who knows??? LOL But it is soo freeing right?

Originally Posted by Scorpio

Only because the deeper we look the more complicated it becomes so the less we feel we know. We know nothing depending on how deep we want to know, how deep we want to know based on the unlimitedness of knowledge. There are no boundaries and if there are they seem an infinity away. How much do we really need to know is what is important. Some things are better left unsolved remain a mystery to be intriguing. Every question is like a tree, we plant the question and it grows there isnt just one answer there are several branches with several leaves and it can be impossible to learn every branch to learn every leaf... Then one day the leaves fall off the branches break the tree will be chopped down and all we have learnt is lost and someone else will plant that seed again. Life is about learning what is needed and nothing more... Don't dive too deep or you find yourself buried in the nothingness feeling lost wondering if you even learnt anything at all....

I know what you are saying and I have seen others get lost there, but for me it was different. I actually found my self there...and it is everything else than empty. It is full to the rim and running over. I think the difference was that they removed the beliefs but did not realize themselves to be that what was left, which left them in a state of emptyness.

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Nada

Person can learn, read, collect, and retain as much knowledge as possible.
But the real truth comes from experience.

Ah, experience...finally.

Originally Posted by WhiteWarrior

I was hearing the voice of a little guy from Barcelona when I read the topic line ;)

Snap! ~laughs~
...or Sargent Shultz.

~smiles~ Nice. I walk a very similar path.

Originally Posted by Moonglow

Hello,

The way I am looking at what is being presented in the OP is this.

Without knowledge how does one come to discover what one does not know?

Yes, the more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.

Seems, for me, to be an on going process. Will have certain beliefs, which may change or be discarded, while others may transform into what I find to be true. Nothing, IMO, is necessarily absolute.

Life to me is an on going process of learning and expanding ones understanding. I feel this is found through knowledge. Whether discovering things through research or exploring or through just observing.
One gains in ones awareness through this.

VThe way I see it is that right now, right here I am living this life. Part of living this life is learning, so that I may to the best I can live this life.

Learning makes things interesting. If I didn't learn, I feel, would just exist or be taken out fairly quickly.

Don't know if what I learn is not taken with me. For if mind, body, and spirit are one and working in unity, then it does have me wonder, at times, how much of this is blended into the consciousness of the whole.

It may be knowledge is for the living of this life one is given here. Through this one grows in understanding, not only oneself, but others as well.

It is how I am looking at it at this time.
Peace