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Old 10-12-2019, 08:16 PM
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I must admit that i became a vegan for years but eventually succumbed to eating meat again,(I now feel and look much healthier).I do however like eating vegan products.
When I was a vegan I took dietary supplements daily.Vitamin tablets etc and a vegan protein powder.


I'm not surprised that you look and feel healthier after returning to a more conventional diet that includes animal protein....that's how it goes with pretty much everyone I've ever known who tried going vegan....

As far as still enjoying vegan products......there is certainly nothing wrong with including anything you enjoy into your diet.
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Old 19-12-2019, 08:26 AM
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Most of these 'vegan' influencers who quit veganism were only 'vegan' because they were interested in the dietary aspects and they were obsessed with eating the cleanest diet. They weren't really 'vegans' but merely plant based dieters.

Donald Watson, the original founder of the term of Veganism defined the lifestyle as "A philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."

While I do try to eat healthy and I am keeping on top of my nutritional requirements, I am not living vegan for the purpose of health benefits.

Even if you could hypothetically prove to me that a plant based diet always leads to deficiencies and poor health outcomes (which you can't, because it's not true. There are many people doing well on well planned vegan diets), why should I compromise my own values and support the cruelty and slaughter of animals in the factory farming system and bring that energy of suffering into my own life and spiritual system?

The anti vegans and the plant based dieters who only care about diet may want to pretend that only humans matter but I don’t.

I could list all the resources that promote plant based diets and warn of the health problems associated with animal products but I refuse to be self centred and focused like most humans.

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Old 02-01-2020, 05:48 AM
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Well 2020 is shaping up to be a stellar year with new vegans coming on board with 300,000 signed up to take the vegan challenge known as Veganuary. A challenge to go plant based for one month and see how the participants feel at the end of the month (with of course, the goal of hopefully having the majority try another month, then another, then ........ until they can one day say, like me, vegan for 12 years+.

So while here and there, a vegan becomes an 'ex', we're not to worried about them. Failures happen for all kinds of reasons. And like smoking, how many people quit numerous times before it takes? So yeah, we're not worried at all. Facts are facts and the truth is out there.

https://vegannewsnow.com/2020/01/01/...y-2020-record/
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Old 02-01-2020, 05:50 AM
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Most of these 'vegan' influencers who quit veganism were only 'vegan' because they were interested in the dietary aspects and they were obsessed with eating the cleanest diet. They weren't really 'vegans' but merely plant based dieters.

Donald Watson, the original founder of the term of Veganism defined the lifestyle as "A philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; and by extension, promotes the development and use of animal-free alternatives for the benefit of humans, animals and the environment. In dietary terms it denotes the practice of dispensing with all products derived wholly or partly from animals."

While I do try to eat healthy and I am keeping on top of my nutritional requirements, I am not living vegan for the purpose of health benefits.

Even if you could hypothetically prove to me that a plant based diet always leads to deficiencies and poor health outcomes (which you can't, because it's not true. There are many people doing well on well planned vegan diets), why should I compromise my own values and support the cruelty and slaughter of animals in the factory farming system and bring that energy of suffering into my own life and spiritual system?

The anti vegans and the plant based dieters who only care about diet may want to pretend that only humans matter but I don’t.

I could list all the resources that promote plant based diets and warn of the health problems associated with animal products but I refuse to be self centred and focused like most humans.

Good comment Mike.
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Old 10-01-2020, 05:05 PM
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If yo u're ancestors from way back were animal eaters and you suddenly start eating things that come from the ground then it may effect some people. Just like if they went from veg to meat
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Old 21-12-2020, 06:02 PM
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my grandmother always tells me she is a vegan and i always see her eating fish and i tell her fish is a meat and she tells me no it is not
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Old 21-12-2020, 07:03 PM
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my grandmother always tells me she is a vegan and i always see her eating fish and i tell her fish is a meat and she tells me no it is not

This is a strange thing that happens in some cultures, the fish is seen as separate from meat. In other countries, like Italy and Thailand, you can say you don't want meat but they'll still give you small bits of pork in your meal. They think meat must be a big chunk. The word 'meat' can be ambiguous, so ''animal part'' would be more clear.
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Old 22-12-2020, 06:58 PM
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i asked her whats meat and she said beef, cows
i said what about chicken and she said that's not meat
thats my grandma
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Old 22-12-2020, 06:59 PM
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This is a strange thing that happens in some cultures, the fish is seen as separate from meat.

yes i have a friend that claims to be a vegetarian and he eats fish
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