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23-01-2019, 11:11 PM
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being and awareness are inseparable
It can help to see the inseparability of one's BEING and one's AWARENESS.
Ramakrishna referred to being, awareness, and joy (sat-chit-ananda) as indivisible. He said they're like water and wetness.
They're part of each other.
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27-01-2019, 02:26 PM
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Water and wetness, ha!
Like the Sun and it's rays.
Love Ramakrishna....got more? 
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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28-01-2019, 07:59 AM
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'God-consciousness is ten million times more blissful than sexual experience.' -Ramakrishna as quoted by Lex Hixon in Great Swan
To me that seems dubious, but perhaps Ramakrishna had experienced such a joy, or at least believed he had.
Tbh I personally can't say whether his statement is valid or complete bogus because I haven't found God-consciousness. |
28-01-2019, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by happy soul
'God-consciousness is ten million times more blissful than sexual experience.' -Ramakrishna as quoted by Lex Hixon in Great Swan
To me that seems dubious, but perhaps Ramakrishna had experienced such a joy, or at least believed he had.
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You mean sexual experience?
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Tbh I personally can't say whether his statement is valid or complete bogus because I haven't found God-consciousness.
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Strange comparison, though.
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29-01-2019, 02:17 AM
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Thanks Gem.
I guess Ramakrishna was just trying to express the degree of joy he had experienced. In the Bible, they sometimes compare the joy of Heaven to being intoxicated by alcohol, maybe because that's a form of pleasure many people have experienced. In the quote from Ramakrishna, he compares the bliss of God-consciousness to sexual experience, which for many people is definitely the most extreme form of pleasure they've experienced.
Saying that God-consciousness is 'ten million' times more blissful than sexual experience is certainly an extreme assertion.
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29-01-2019, 03:19 AM
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Hello HS !
God consciousness or Oneness has been expressed by many who have so been ... been and so seen or some may choose to say seen so been
That’s the problem. The expression, the delineation serves no use for the person reading the symbols because we need to become That to realise That. It is a becoming.
For example, if someone were to say, yes, the ecstasy is indeed ineffable, wondrous and undiminishing what of this statement? It may validate or needlessly reaffirm what the speaker knows as lived reality but it will convey nothing of value to the other ... except if there is someone who has had a glimpse, experienced a whiff of the Oneness, then it may spur him as a nondoer to stay steadfast upon the inner journey.
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29-01-2019, 05:19 AM
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Unseeking Seeker,
I know what you mean about statements like the one I quoted being somewhat useless or unhelpful to people. I've always been skeptical about ideas like 'infinite bliss,' and my own journey definitely hasn't been motivated by a desire to achieve such a state.
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29-01-2019, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by happy soul
Unseeking Seeker,
I know what you mean about statements like the one I quoted being somewhat useless or unhelpful to people. I've always been skeptical about ideas like 'infinite bliss,' and my own journey definitely hasn't been motivated by a desire to achieve such a state.
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Ah! The penny drops! The intent was not to say that ineffable bliss is not, what was meant is that the beingness in such a state cannot be explained or proved to the analytical biscectional mind. It is cognisable by employing intuition. The ego however resists cultivation of our intuitive ability since there is no separate self as in an egoic doer during meditation which requires the ego to disappear and us, meaning non-ego self childlike presence to first accentuate, then rest Satvik frequency intuitive attention. Effortlessly, magnetically.
It may be affirmed with certainty that an indescribable bliss as portrayed IS.
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29-01-2019, 05:56 AM
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Thanks US.
You're probably right imo.
Nice connecting with you.
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04-02-2019, 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by happy soul
'God-consciousness is ten million times more blissful than sexual experience.' -Ramakrishna ....
To me that seems dubious,...
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Yeah, it's more like 1000xs.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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