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19-02-2015, 04:18 PM
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Our human truth can be claimed, there is parts of the whole truth that we will never know as humans but that can be understood also.
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19-02-2015, 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Capacity
Truth can only be pointed at. It can't be limited by being claimed. It's boundless and all encompassing.
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Yes I agree also.  |
20-02-2015, 07:47 AM
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Truth can only be pointed at. It can't be limited by being claimed. It's boundless and all encompassing.
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You can point at truth all you want. I prefer to reach out and grab hold of it, turn it over for a thorough examination, and come to understand it. None of that hands off stuff for me thanks. It is indeed boundless and all encompassing, but so are we.
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20-02-2015, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by athribiristan
You can point at truth all you want. I prefer to reach out and grab hold of it, turn it over for a thorough examination, and come to understand it. None of that hands off stuff for me thanks. It is indeed boundless and all encompassing, but so are we.
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If What you are really saying is you try to understand it, that's cool and all because that will show that it is beyond understanding.
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The cessation of identifying with the fluctuations arising within consciousness
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20-02-2015, 11:23 AM
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It isn't beyond understanding because the source understands what it does. Its beyond our mental "capacity", no pun intended lol, during this life time. We can however understand the truth about us humans from Earth!
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20-02-2015, 11:51 AM
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It isn't beyond understanding because the source understands what it does. Its beyond our mental "capacity", no pun intended lol, during this life time. We can however understand the truth about us humans from Earth!
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You are personalizing the source IMO, and that too can be an effort to understand it. There's nothing to hold on to.
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20-02-2015, 01:16 PM
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You are personalizing the source IMO, and that too can be an effort to understand it. There's nothing to hold on to.
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I'm not trying to understand the source, I understand I will never know more then the known info about the source. But I know what the source does from our view point of Earth. Since the source is all knowing, the source would know what it does. The source is everything so in my opinion the source can be personalized, aren't we persons? |
21-02-2015, 11:20 AM
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I constantly hear people say all the time "your" truth or "my" God. I never understood that way of thinking. That is like my blood brother calling our mother, just "his" mom when we are conversing. It's both of our moms.
The truth was my whole driving force to figuring out this life. The truth started my awakening and keeps me here in the present. So my question is how can the truth be different to one person on "Earth" and not be the same for another person on "Earth"?
2+2=4 that's true everywhere you go, but if your "taught" its anything else does that make it false?
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There is a Vedic saying, " Ekam sad vipra bahudha vadanti " -- “Truth is one, but sages call it by various names.”
However due to misinterpretation of the truth, the unsagely ones focus on the superficial differences and start quarreling on them,creating wars and conflicts.
The quarreling thus can be seen as a sure sign of foolishness and lack of true wisdom.
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When even one virtue becomes our nature, the mind becomes clean and tranquil. Then there is no need to practice meditation; we will automatically be meditating always. ~ Swami Satchidananda
Wholesome virtuous behavior progressively leads to the foremost.~ Buddha AN 10.1
If you do right, irrespective of what the other does, it will slow down the (turbulent) mind. ~ Rajini Menon
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21-02-2015, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ajay00
There is a Vedic saying, " Ekam sad vipra bahudha vadanti " -- “Truth is one, but sages call it by various names.”
However due to misinterpretation of the truth, the unsagely ones focus on the superficial differences and start quarreling on them,creating wars and conflicts.
The quarreling thus can be seen as a sure sign of foolishness and lack of true wisdom.
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22-02-2015, 01:05 AM
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If What you are really saying is you try to understand it, that's cool and all because that will show that it is beyond understanding.
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Nope, not what I'm saying at all.....and it's still cool.
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