Can you relax on a meadow and close your eyes?

Can you do this in the afterlife - or will you get teleported or fall through the grass? Or are you even allowed to sleep??

Please tell me, thanks

[inavalan]

In the afterlife you aren't on Earth anymore. You don't have a physical body.

Originally Posted by inavalan

In the afterlife you aren't on Earth anymore. You don't have a physical body.

Where do you think grass and earth came from bro?

[Rah nam]

Originally Posted by inavalan

In the afterlife you aren't on Earth anymore. You don't have a physical body.

I agree with many things inavalan says, not quite here, depending what we understand by "afterlife". No we don't have a physical body, but then what is physical, ultimately all energies are physical to some degree. I would suggest physical to a lesser degree.
And as we cross over we remain on Earth until such time we are ready to fully cross over, leave Earth to the astral realm. Hens the light tunnel, that some see. Yes, many will leave strait away, if they are ready.


In the earth realm an entity can do what it believes it can do. Jump, fly, go through walls. Water is a subject I can not quite get my head around. What happens to those who drown. I am told they don't go to the bottom of the ocean, they will find themselves somewhere else, not exactly sure where.
In some kind of vortex.

Originally Posted by Rah nam

I agree with many things inavalan says, not quite here, depending what we understand by "afterlife". No we don't have a physical body, but then what is physical, ultimately all energies are physical to some degree. I would suggest physical to a lesser degree.
And as we cross over we remain on Earth until such time we are ready to fully cross over, leave Earth to the astral realm. Hens the light tunnel, that some see. Yes, many will leave strait away, if they are ready.


In the earth realm an entity can do what it believes it can do. Jump, fly, go through walls. Water is a subject I can not quite get my head around. What happens to those who drown. I am told they don't go to the bottom of the ocean, they will find themselves somewhere else, not exactly sure where.
In some kind of vortex.

Hi Rah Nam

By earth realm, are you talking about the astral or actually just left here on Earth?

Are you saying that entities left here can do what they want, then why would the water be "in some kind of vortex"

JL

[Rah nam]

Originally Posted by janielee

Hi Rah Nam

By earth realm, are you talking about the astral or actually just left here on Earth?

Are you saying that entities left here can do what they want, then why would the water be "in some kind of vortex"

JL

Some talk about the lower astral. I assume this is what I call the non-physical earth realm.
What my people call the astral realm is somewhere else in this solar system. I don't know which planet, and I was never told which.
Not the water is not the vortex. Those who die in the water, or in some other violent circumstances, end up in some kind of vortex. And I have come across several, one here in Australia where native Australians have been massacred, and in Germany in Buchenwald (concentration camp near Weimar)

What I wanted to say about water and spirits, they don't "mix".

It was mentioned, in other places, spirits can not cross water. Never gave it much thought, until I tried to figure out what happens to those who drown, die on sea.

[neil]

Originally Posted by Rah nam

Some talk about the lower astral. I assume this is what I call the non-physical earth realm.
What my people call the astral realm is somewhere else in this solar system. I don't know which planet, and I was never told which.
Not the water is not the vortex. Those who die in the water, or in some other violent circumstances, end up in some kind of vortex. And I have come across several, one here in Australia where native Australians have been massacred, and in Germany in Buchenwald (concentration camp near Weimar)

What I wanted to say about water and spirits, they don't "mix".

It was mentioned, in other places, spirits can not cross water. Never gave it much thought, until I tried to figure out what happens to those who drown, die on sea.

Rah nam... I believe that your people, as you call them are not being 100% forth coming with you, in regards to the astral.
& how many times now is it that you have asked & or wondered of something & your people refuse to fill your inquisitive mind with the truth.
Mate..if I were you, i would seriously question everything about your so called people...I can tell you that I did constantly question the authenticity of the voices that i hear & they turned out to be far far less than they professed to be.

The word astral has been thrown around for so long & is totally distorted in truth & understanding.

There really is no astral, there is only a spiritual universe surrounding the earth & the totality of the earth & it's surroundings & all galaxies are totally lying within the spiritual universe, along side the Heavens although many many untold gazillions of light years apart.
Everthing & all energy, outside of the Heavens are of the same spiritual quality. Only in the Heavens does spiritual essence, radiance, abundance vary. As there are many levels/spheres within the Heavens, however they are all on the same plane of existence, although each successive level/sphere is more radiant than the former.

A person from higher spheres can walk from higher spheres through to the lowest sphere, although it would take a very very long long time.

No part of the earth is "lower anything"...the only thing that is lower on or around the Earth are all dark spiritual beings that are lurking around the earth...maybe you could question your people on that issue & more regarding Earthlings & the negative influences from very dark minded beings...i know that your people know the truth regarding those matters.

Anyhow consider if you choose to, even ask a question of me if you like. Regards Neil

[neil]

Originally Posted by Rah nam

Water is a subject I can not quite get my head around. What happens to those who drown. I am told they don't go to the bottom of the ocean, they will find themselves somewhere else, not exactly sure where.
In some kind of vortex.

Rah nam...your statement quoted is not very clear to me...A vortex...No.

They are simply seperated from their flesh, even if they are deep under the surface of water, & they will drift away from their body & will still be under the surface & can see their flesh body.
& then move away towards the surface & simply move towards land & do what ever they choose, but a smart move would be to make their way to the lesser Heavens, & spend considerable time there learning about the spiritual laws of love. Because without a knowledge of those laws one can find themselves on the wrong side of those laws & of which will see an unloving person depleting & growing ugly of appearance & radiance accordingly.

Nothing can or will stop a spiritual person from doing anything or going anywhere...not even ridding oneself of the flesh & earth life, by ones own doing can stop a person's desires.

[Rah nam]

Originally Posted by neil

Rah nam...your statement quoted is not very clear to me...A vortex...No.

They are simply seperated from their flesh, even if they are deep under the surface of water, & they will drift away from their body & will still be under the surface & can see their flesh body.
& then move away towards the surface & simply move towards land & do what ever they choose, but a smart move would be to make their way to the lesser Heavens, & spend considerable time there learning about the spiritual laws of love. Because without a knowledge of those laws one can find themselves on the wrong side of those laws & of which will see an unloving person depleting & growing ugly of appearance & radiance accordingly.

Nothing can or will stop a spiritual person from doing anything or going anywhere...not even ridding oneself of the flesh & earth life, by ones own doing can stop a person's desires.

Your statement is noted

[neil]

Originally Posted by inavalan

In the afterlife you aren't on Earth anymore. You don't have a physical body.

So you think & maybe believe that, in Spirit we will not have a physical body
In the Earthly sence of a physical organic body, yes you are correct, however we do & will have a body, that does experience life in a similar way as we do on earth, only more intense our feelings are to be.

& that body known as the spiritual body, which is an exact copy of the Earthly body, & of which emanates from 'us' the 'Soul'self, & the appearance of that spiritual body is dependent on the quality of 'Soul'self.

And we can lay upon grass, swim, climb, run, & more way more, within the spiritual lands & yes we can close our eyes & think/contemplate, but not sleep, as the 'Soulself is 100% conscious & aware & has no need for sleep.
If the spiritual 'Soul'self is in total harmony with Gods laws of love, then the 'Soul'self never tires, never depletes & will only grow more radiant.