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Chop wood, carry water, ......Specifically, equanimous lovingkindness is needed at the most local and individual of levels.
Since what you need for equanimity and care of the mind, body & spirit will be broadly similar to me but equally may vary widely in the unique, individual specifics or "specs".Peace & blessings 7L


Yes some have more gas than others, so an so on for each pecific individual needs in aiding their equanimity of mind via equanimity of body needs ---taking care of business----.

Equanimity of breath, eating, sleeping, bladder, farting, bowels, orgasm and human attention ---thats 8--- are the primary set that aid me personally in finding my personal equanimity of mind.

Others may not have that same set as each human is unique in their specific needs, as you make clear.

That said, we know the No God has No Belly Button, but what about the Yes God? Do they have a naval? Does the Yes God have a MaMa?

Sorry, do not answer ---unless you cant helps yourself--- that as it is really topic for another thread.
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I'm pretty sure my story about equanimity is in line with the dhamma teachings because this is what is taught where I studied meditation in the formal setting, and I give credit to that training above what is google read, but it isn't true because it is taught as such in Buddhist schools - it's true because when you observe without reacting to experience you have balanced equanimity of mind, and once established in mindful equanimity one is not perturbed easily, and capable of keeping an even keel no matter what the circumstances.

humans are a herd animal. i will never understand it. you have if you believe that is the reason for a spiritual practice have become part of their herd in my view. on the other hand you are going by your own expereince which is really good imo and not just trying to be in the herd.

what im saying is its possible to flow through life and emotions without a break in silence or bliss because transcedence can happen throughout the system. you dont have to live in the crown as an observer. you dont have to avoid the second chakra.

i hope people dont get caught up into believing in living in the crown as the reason. when the reason can be so much greater.

again im not saying its not a good practice to open the crown. im just saying the whole system can transcend.
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I'm pretty sure my story about equanimity is in line with the dhamma....... it's true because when you observe without reacting to experience you have balanced equanimity of mind, and once established in mindful equanimity one is not perturbed easily, and capable of keeping an even keel no matter what the circumstances.

Ex when chopping wood and the mall misses wood and hits your shinbone, the level of equanimity is balanced out by the degree of pain.

Level 1 pain gets a minor tension and gritting of teeth,

Level 2 pain gets the above and a grunt.

Level 3 pain gets the above and curse word

Level 4 pain gets the above and screaming of curse as we fall on the ground holding our leg etc.

Level 5 pain resolves in unconsciousness and equanimity of pain untill we awaken or the pain meds wear-off at the hospital after we have awaken on th on gurney.
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humans are a herd animal. i will never understand it. you have if you believe that is the reason for a spiritual practice have become part of their herd in my view. on the other hand you are going by your own expereince which is really good imo and not just trying to be in the herd.

what im saying is its possible to flow through life and emotions without a break in silence or bliss because transcedence can happen throughout the system. you dont have to live in the crown as an observer. you dont have to avoid the second chakra.

i hope people dont get caught up into believing in living in the crown as the reason. when the reason can be so much greater.

again im not saying its not a good practice to open the crown. im just saying the whole system can transcend.




All that stuff about chakras is just what the herd keeps saying, teehee, I'm only joking as I don't know anything about chakras, so I've never said open these up or anything else. I only said you can have emotions and sensations etc without being disturbed, that's what we call equanimity.



In Buddhist teaching equanimity is the cessation of aversion and craving, and as such equanimity is balance of mind. In my language equanimity is a stable mind that doesn't get rattled easily, doesn't take things too personally, keeps an even keel in all weather.
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All that stuff about chakras is just what the herd keeps saying, teehee, I'm only joking as I don't know anything about chakras, so I've never said open these up or anything else. I only said you can have emotions and sensations etc without being disturbed, that's what we call equanimity.



In Buddhist teaching equanimity is the cessation of aversion and craving, and as such equanimity is balance of mind. In my language equanimity is a stable mind that doesn't get rattled easily, doesn't take things too personally, keeps an even keel in all weather.

i should probably shut up. obviously you and jonesboy have practices that work well and are giving the results y'all want. plus if your saying its not about avoidance of emotions and such then i have nothing to debate with y'all about. except it might get boring. lol.
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In Vajrayana/Tantra Buddhism (as I understand it, or perhaps not), emotions are seen as energy and they are not disregarded nor suppressed, but very much included. It is just that the neurotic qualities of them are transmuted into their enlightened, wisdom energy qualities …..

Here is a chart:


To me it looks like dealing with the poison and its antidote is still very much like the dual mind fiddling with the ‘thermostat’, still being mainly preoccupied with the self and centered around the self, whereas the wisdom aspect is more like witnessing things and operating from a nondual or non-self (or Self) .... or Emptiness perspective.

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Five Buddha Families expanded, an introduction:



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i should probably shut up. obviously you and jonesboy have practices that work well and are giving the results y'all want. plus if your saying its not about avoidance of emotions and such then i have nothing to debate with y'all about. except it might get boring. lol.




Just speaking for myself, I'm not trying to get anything from meditation, so I only practice keeping a calm balance of mind, and that really means ceasing to react to whatever experience I have. My view is that gaining something from meditation is fundamentally misguided as meditation becomes a means to an end rather than the truth of what is. The actuality as it is now.


Of course the experts will argue because there's nothing special, and if there's nothing special, why even meditate? No energies or no bliss? Just this experience as it actually is? What's the point? Why do all this if there is no result I want? That lot is being fabricated by the mind, and you can notice the mind coming up with all that. In this way, if you noticed, you understand what meditation is fundamentally.
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