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Old 11-03-2017, 07:28 PM
Jeremy Bong Jeremy Bong is offline
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Karma.

what's karma ? It's the track or footprint of a person's undergoing sufferings, bullied by others, well treat others, empathy, love .... good or bad accordingly to the judgement of .....not by human but by the law of God or the law of righteous standard.

So in order the karma to be erased by anyone or teacher, he should can erased all his bad footprints towards others. So the problems is where's the footprints may exist ? It can be on your side and on other person side that you created your footprints on him. Or in the air it bid企圖争取 its time for its|your rewards.

It's printed on concrete wall of nature or on minds (astral cosmos) or the Energy in the air. So it's a matter of facts to erased what , where and how? This is especially for the good or bad doers and no others can be forgotten or forgiven according to the law of nature not so simple as 1+1=2. It can be anywhere or nowhere.

Why my dharma can be part in the air or in the universe and this is the truth of it. Whatever you do is set in the"computer"of God or nature. So in order to "erase" the track of footprints the only way is blessing by the creator or changing of identity of him by the creator. It isn't by incarnation or reincarnation but to change him entirely off his former self and only creator can do it or as Jesus represent you to be nailed on his cross.

I have done or can do this according to my will when my universe light energy passing from one's feet passing up to his head and all his identity of self is no more as him before. That's why I can change a bad God to be a purely formed God under my treatment of him. And he's a newly created being never had any connection with his former self. And if he still consistently preserved his self and unchanged then his karma is still available to him.

I don't deviate扁离the nature|God of law but just to create a peaceful world for all of us to stay. My help is essential of a true understanding of good life or living. And for them to thanks of my help is more than I feel tiresome to eliminate them. This is one way to show empathy to others.
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Old 11-03-2017, 07:56 PM
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what's karma ? It's the track or footprint of a person's undergoing sufferings, bullied by others, well treat others, empathy, love .... good or bad accordingly to the judgement of .....not by human but by the law of God or the law of righteous standard.

So in order the karma to be erased by anyone or teacher, he should can erased all his bad footprints towards others. So the proiiblems is where's the footprints may exist ? It can be on your side and on other person side that you created your footprints on him. Or in the air it bid企圖争取 its time for its|your rewards.

It's printed on concrete wall of nature or on minds (astral cosmos) or the Energy in the air. So it's a matter of facts to erased what , where and how? This is especially for the good or bad doers and no others can be forgotten or forgiven according to the law of nature not so simple as 1+1=2. It can be anywhere or nowhere.

Why my dharma can be part in the air or in the universe and this is the truth of it. Whatever you do is set in the"computer"of God or nature. So in order to "erase" the track of footprints the only way is blessing by the creator or changing of identity of him by the creator. It isn't by incarnation or reincarnation but to change him entirely off his former self and only creator can do it or as Jesus represent you to be nailed on his cross.

I have done or can do this according to my will when my universe light energy passing from one's feet passing up to his head and all his identity of self is no more as him before. That's why I can change a bad God to be a purely formed God under my treatment of him. And he's a newly created being never had any connection with his former self. And if he still consistently preserved his self and unchanged then his karma is still available to him.

I don't deviate扁离the nature|God of law but just to create a peaceful world for all of us to stay. My help is essential of a true understanding of good life or living. And for them to thanks of my help is more than I feel tiresome to eliminate them. This is one way to show empathy to others.


Hi Jeremy, I have been for some Dim Sum with Jasmine Tea today with some Chinese friends, beautiful Good Karma day I think.
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Old 11-03-2017, 10:01 PM
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I'd only really like to say I ask for personal resaons, and I wonder what the Buddhist position would be

django,

In the Buddha's definition, karma is intention.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/d...thi/kamma.html

Having sowed, one reaps through body, mind and soul.

Can a Master remove another's karma? At the end of the day, all souls on this planet influence each other's karma.

The practice of Buddhist practice is about liberation, freedom from small mind.

In that way, one can oneself remove/adjust one's own kammic patterns, and this can certainly be assisted through various channels including Masters.

The other key thing to remember is karma is borne of Mind - even people with nice objects and material things are not necessarily of peaceful mind and heart. Therefore, the Buddhist teachings focus on Mind/Heart in all cases, and kamma is then seen for what it is - a life of joy and opportunity for those willing.

This is the context in which kamma is relevant to a Buddhist practitioner.


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Old 11-03-2017, 11:04 PM
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django,

In the Buddha's definition, karma is intention.

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/ptf/d...thi/kamma.html

Having sowed, one reaps through body, mind and soul.

Can a Master remove another's karma? At the end of the day, all souls on this planet influence each other's karma.

The practice of Buddhist practice is about liberation, freedom from small mind.

In that way, one can oneself remove/adjust one's own kammic patterns, and this can certainly be assisted through various channels including Masters.

The other key thing to remember is karma is borne of Mind - even people with nice objects and material things are not necessarily of peaceful mind and heart. Therefore, the Buddhist teachings focus on Mind/Heart in all cases, and kamma is then seen for what it is - a life of joy and opportunity for those willing.

This is the context in which kamma is relevant to a Buddhist practitioner.


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Hi,

The explanation below is the second or third steps but your dharma is just the first step: to think or intention.

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Karma (Sanskrit, also karman, Pāli: kamma) is a Sanskrit term that literally means "action" or "doing". In the Buddhist tradition, karma refers to action driven by intention (cetanā) which leads to future consequences.

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Karma and karmaphala are fundamental concepts in Buddhism.[12][13] The concepts of karma and karmaphala explain how our intentional actions keep us tied to rebirth in samsara, whereas the Buddhist path, as exemplified in the Noble Eightfold Path, shows us the way out of samsara.[14]

Rebirth Edit
Rebirth,[note 2], is a common belief in all Buddhist traditions. It says that birth and death in the six realms occur in successive cycles driven by ignorance (avidyā), desire (trsnā), and hatred (dvesa). The cycle of rebirth is called samsarā. It is a beginningless and ever-ongoing process.[15] Liberation from samsarā can be attained by following the Buddhist Path. This path leads to vidyā, and the stilling of trsnā and dvesa. Hereby the ongoing process of rebirth is stopped.

Karma Edit
The cycle of rebirth is determined by karma,[15] literally "action".[note 3] In the Buddhist tradition, karma refers to actions driven by intention (cetanā),[21][22][6][quote 1] a deed done deliberately through body, speech or mind, which leads to future consequences.[25] The Nibbedhika Sutta, Anguttara Nikaya 6.63:
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Old 12-03-2017, 12:53 AM
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What is a ' real guru ' ?

This may help.



From the KULARNAVA TANTRA



Difficult to obtain is the Guru who pleased,

gifts to you in the fraction of a second, the

wealth of liberation, taking you across the ocean

of Samsara.



Difficult to obtain is the godly Guru who

gives to the disciple his own capacity in a

moment without any ceremony or effort; who

gives instruction in knowledge which instantly

promotes faith, is easy and gives happiness of

the Self.



He is the Guru who goes on giving knowledge

with facility, without strenuous practice

and the like, as one moves from island to island.

Difficult to obtain is the Guru whose mere

instruction gives rise to knowledge, even as food

gives instant contentment to the hungry.


Many are the Gurus like lamps in house and

house; but rare is the Guru who lights up all

like the sun.



Many are the Gurus who are proficient to the

utmost in Vedas, and Sastras; but rare is the

Guru who has attained to the supreme Truth.

Many are the Gurus on earth who give what

is other than the Self; but rare is the Guru in

the worlds who brings to light the Atman.


Many are the Gurus who know petty

mantras, medicaments; but rare is the Guru

who knows the Mantras handed down by the

Nigama, Agama and Sastra.



Many are the Gurus who rob the disciple of

his wealth; but rare is the Guru who removes

the afflictions of the disciple.



Many are they who are given to the discipline

and conduct according to varna (class),

asrama (stage) and kula (family); but he who is

devoid of all volition is the Guru rare to find.

He is the Guru by whose very contact there

flows the supreme Ananda; the intelligent

man shall choose such a one as the Guru and

no other.



By the mere sight of him whose intelligence

is active only till the advent of experience, one

attains liberation, there is no doubt of it.

Rare is the Guru who has eaten up Doubt

which has engulfed the three worlds with all

that is moving and unmoving.



As in the vicinity of fire the butter gets

melted, so in the proximity of the holy Guru all

sin dissolves



As lighted fire burns up all fuel - dry and

moist - so the glance of the Guru burns up in a

moment the sin of the disciple.



As a heap of cotton blown up by a great

storm scatters in all the ten directions, so the

heap of sins is driven away by the compassion

of the Guru.



As darkness is destroyed at the very sight of

the lamps, so is ignorance destroyed at the very

sight of the holy Guru.
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Old 12-03-2017, 01:17 AM
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I agree. A real Guru is way more than petty words and some teachings.
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Old 13-03-2017, 06:55 AM
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What is a ' real guru ' ?
There's only one.
When you seek him you will not find him. When you don't seek him he is spontaneously present.
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Old 13-03-2017, 07:35 AM
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There's only one.
When you seek him you will not find him. When you don't seek him he is spontaneously present.


Life itself is my guru.. constantly teaching me what I need to know.
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Old 13-03-2017, 07:41 AM
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This may help.



From the KULARNAVA TANTRA



Difficult to obtain is the Guru who pleased,

gifts to you in the fraction of a second, the

wealth of liberation, taking you across the ocean

of Samsara.



Difficult to obtain is the godly Guru who

gives to the disciple his own capacity in a

moment without any ceremony or effort; who

gives instruction in knowledge which instantly

promotes faith, is easy and gives happiness of

the Self.



He is the Guru who goes on giving knowledge

with facility, without strenuous practice

and the like, as one moves from island to island.

Difficult to obtain is the Guru whose mere

instruction gives rise to knowledge, even as food

gives instant contentment to the hungry.


Many are the Gurus like lamps in house and

house; but rare is the Guru who lights up all

like the sun.



Many are the Gurus who are proficient to the

utmost in Vedas, and Sastras; but rare is the

Guru who has attained to the supreme Truth.

Many are the Gurus on earth who give what

is other than the Self; but rare is the Guru in

the worlds who brings to light the Atman.


Many are the Gurus who know petty

mantras, medicaments; but rare is the Guru

who knows the Mantras handed down by the

Nigama, Agama and Sastra.



Many are the Gurus who rob the disciple of

his wealth; but rare is the Guru who removes

the afflictions of the disciple.



Many are they who are given to the discipline

and conduct according to varna (class),

asrama (stage) and kula (family); but he who is

devoid of all volition is the Guru rare to find.

He is the Guru by whose very contact there

flows the supreme Ananda; the intelligent

man shall choose such a one as the Guru and

no other.



By the mere sight of him whose intelligence

is active only till the advent of experience, one
attains liberation, there is no doubt of it.

Rare is the Guru who has eaten up Doubt

which has engulfed the three worlds with all

that is moving and unmoving.



As in the vicinity of fire the butter gets

melted, so in the proximity of the holy Guru all

sin dissolves



As lighted fire burns up all fuel - dry and

moist - so the glance of the Guru burns up in a

moment the sin of the disciple.



As a heap of cotton blown up by a great

storm scatters in all the ten directions, so the

heap of sins is driven away by the compassion

of the Guru.



As darkness is destroyed at the very sight of

the lamps, so is ignorance destroyed at the very

sight of the holy Guru.


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Old 13-03-2017, 08:45 AM
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What if someone were to practice Tonglen, would that be a possible mechanism?
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