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Old 28-05-2019, 11:23 AM
NoOne NoOne is offline
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Originally Posted by Lorelyen
That's precisely what Constantine wanted you to believe. There was no way he could have sold his doctrine by portraying Jesus as entirely human. Constantine even made up the story about Jesus being born on 25th December - the commencement of the Saturnalia festival in Rome. He has to align it with the paganism of the times if he hoped for any credibility.

Jesus himself thought rather differently, given evidence by such gospels as Thomas and Mary Magdalene, deliberately kept out of the Bible by Constantine who also tried to have the Apocryphal gospels destroyed. He didn't quite succeed.

I'm simply referring to the Myth of Jesus here. How much of that is actually true, I have no idea. Not much, I suspect, or they may have been based on the life and achievements of others, not just the historical figure.

I personally have no emotional investment in the Jesus story, so It only interests me insofar as it conforms to certain patterns found in other, generally more ancient myths.

The interesting part to me is the story of the Essenes, who all apparently lived a life like Jesus did, including all the preaching and healing. That is an angle I would personally like to explore.
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Old 28-05-2019, 12:49 PM
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Does it really matter how we label it as long as we understand how it makes us feel? I don't any special names or categories I just know how it affects me and how those thoughts and feelings affect others around me. Keep it simple is my message.
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Old 28-05-2019, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lorelyen
All I can tell you is that too many, perhaps all, are male. I see it here: people extolling and/or preaching a male doctrine. Unless I'm wildly mistaken even Abraham Hicks is a female hiding behind a male name (please correct me if I'm wrong).

Why is this, I wonder? Do males have the monopoly on communication with the divine? Are they alone the gender with a toolbox of panaceas for increasingly distressing lives?

For all that, men are far more out of touch with their emotions than women. I find it weird that too many of these "ascended masters", gurus, whatever, derive their stuff by leading lives out of kilter with nature. The Roman church is typical, far from alone. Abstinence. Is that natural?

Males obviously do not have a monopoly on communication with the Divine. India has a long tradition of female yoginis and saints, some of whom (e.g. Anandamayi Ma) were widely revered. Even Christianity has had many notable female mystics who communed with the Divine.

I would not consider the Roman Catholic church as a source of spiritual wisdom. It teaches various dogmas which have their origins in political decisions designed to increase the power of the Catholic church.

But yes, the majority of teachers do seem to have incarnated in male bodies, and there may be practical reasons for this. As society develops we might expect that the balance of male/female teachers will even out.

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Old Yesterday, 06:25 PM
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It appears The bible is a bit of a scrapbook collated over hundreds of years and so the information is equally fragmented. There does seem to be references to initiations in the Surat Shabd tradition along with accounts of meditation such as opening the book of seals in Revelation. Anything written is open to interpretation, this is after being rewritten again from ancient Hebrew and then changed again to suit your bias and so where does that leave us??
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