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Old 11-02-2011, 05:41 PM
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Beautiful post. Love it. And thank you.

(I will now start drinking more coffee! )

I highly recommend it. Or some really good strong chai with a nice froth...mmmmm....
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Old 17-02-2011, 03:01 AM
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There is so much I want to say about Sweetening the Dream but I will start with this:

A bad dream is actually a really good dream waiting to be revealed.
The dream is potentially so good, that it first had to be hidden in a dark cloak.

There is a repeating theme in the Torah that blessings can appear first as curses.
The greater the curse, the greater the potential blessing.

With enough effort, each of us can turn curses into blessings.
Then its not just a blessing that G-d gives us, but rather a blessing that we have realized for ourselves.

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P.S. Our Dream is right here.
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Old 17-02-2011, 03:19 AM
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There is so much I want to say about Sweetening the Dream but I will start with this:

A bad dream is actually a really good dream waiting to be revealed.
The dream is potentially so good, that it first had to be hidden in a dark cloak.

There is a repeating theme in the Torah that blessings can appear first as curses.
The greater the curse, the greater the potential blessing.

With enough effort, each of us can turn curses into blessings.
Then its not just a blessing that G-d gives us, but rather a blessing that we have realized for ourselves.

-esther
P.S. Our Dream is right here.


גם זו לטובה

בשלום
Peter
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Old 17-02-2011, 04:33 PM
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It's all for the good :)

Beautiful posts and thank you...we all need to hear that...and to know that in our hearts...

l'shalom,
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Old 21-02-2011, 02:17 PM
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Has anyone ever had a bad dream...or a disturbing dream....&/or one you couldn't understand?

...or a recurring dream that felt disturbing or seemed negative?

If so, has anyone tried to "sweeten the dream" using the "alchemic incantation" in the Gemara (Berachot 55b) to transmute the dream for the good?

I did this over the weekend...once I finally was able to recall this disturbing recurring dream I was having. And I have to say, there is something therapeutic as well as metaphysical...healing emotionally and spiritually...to this incantation.

Here it is...
Peace & blessings,
7L

Hi Manda

I haven't had recurring dreams but I had some orrible ones

What I am noticing more and more though Is that I am getting quicker at realizing that I am In a dream regardless of what the dream Is about.

Last night I dreamed of a jumbo jet and me the pilot the passangers were on board. The plane was In the mountains literally. It was maneuvering like a car going down a rocky path. I thought to myself well this Is stupid lol this Is a plane why are we not flying?, but I knew I was dreaming It and I went along with the oddness. he hehe

Perhaps It's time I took the place of the pilot

x daz the drumming pilot x
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Old 21-02-2011, 05:06 PM
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Hi Manda

I haven't had recurring dreams but I had some orrible ones

What I am noticing more and more though Is that I am getting quicker at realizing that I am In a dream regardless of what the dream Is about.

Last night I dreamed of a jumbo jet and me the pilot the passangers were on board. The plane was In the mountains literally. It was maneuvering like a car going down a rocky path. I thought to myself well this Is stupid lol this Is a plane why are we not flying?, but I knew I was dreaming It and I went along with the oddness. he hehe

Perhaps It's time I took the place of the pilot

x daz the drumming pilot x
Daz: "I have seen a good dream (whatever it is)..."

Yes please do take over before it drives off the cliff

At some level I knew it was a dream too...it would get to the part where you walked in and subtly pointed that out to me...LOL...and then I would realise

...but the disturbing part would already have happened and then I kept forgetting everything..

Only the all-pervasive feeling of terror and dread remained...as you said, just 'orrible...thank God it's like so many things...it makes more sense when you get some perspective on it...

And thank God...גם זו לטובה...it's all for the good...
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Old 22-02-2011, 11:39 AM
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At some level I knew it was a dream too...it would get to the part where you walked in and subtly pointed that out to me...LOL...and then I would realise

Was I wearing my tarzan outfit.

My turn to dream about you (again)... he he

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Was I wearing my tarzan outfit.

My turn to dream about you (again)... he he

x daz x

LOL...sadly you were fully dressed... it was a nightmare, remember?...LOL...

since its your turn, pls pick a happy place!

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Old 24-02-2011, 11:09 AM
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LOL...sadly you were fully dressed... it was a nightmare, remember?...LOL...

since its your turn, pls pick a happy place!


I'll think of somewhere nice . .

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Has anyone ever had a bad dream...or a disturbing dream....&/or one you couldn't understand?

...or a recurring dream that felt disturbing or seemed negative?

If so, has anyone tried to "sweeten the dream" using the "alchemic incantation" in the Gemara (Berachot 55b) to transmute the dream for the good?

I did this over the weekend...once I finally was able to recall this disturbing recurring dream I was having. And I have to say, there is something therapeutic as well as metaphysical...healing emotionally and spiritually...to this incantation.

Here it is...
Peace & blessings,
7L


WHAT TO DO ABOUT DREAMS
(a) (Rav Huna bar Ami): If one is bothered by a dream, he should interpret it in front of three people.
(b) Objection: [It is better not to interpret it;] Rav Chisda taught that a dream that is not interpreted is like an unread letter (nothing will come from it)!
(c) Correction: Rather, he should amend it in front of three people, as follows:
1. He tells them, "I saw a good dream"; they respond, "It is good, it will be good, Hash-m will make it good, may Shamayim decree seven times that it will be good, and it should be good for you!"
2. They should say three verses of rerversal, three of redemption, and three of peace:
i. The three of reversal: "Hafachta Mispedi l'Machol Li Pitachta Saki va'Te'azreni Simchah," and "Az Tismach Besulah... v'Hafachti Evlam l'Sason," and "v'Lo Avah Hash-m Elokecha Lishmo'a El Bil'am va'Yahafoch..."
ii. Three of redemption: "Padah b'Shalom Nafshi...," "u'Feduyei Hash-m Yehuvun," "va'Yomer ha'Am El Shaul... [va'Yifdu ha'Am Es Yehonason v'Lo Mes"].
iii. Three of Shalom: "Borei Niv Sefasayim Shalom Shalom la'Rachok vela'Karov...," "v'Ru'ach Lovshah Es Amasai...[Shalom Lecha v'Shalom l'Ozrecha]," "va'Amartem Ko Lechai v'Atah Shalom..."


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http://www.come-and-hear.com/berakoth/berakoth_55.html

R. Huna b. Ammi said in the name of R. Pedath who had it from R. Johanan: If one has a dream which makes him sad he should go and have it interpreted in the presence of three. He should have it interpreted! Has not R. Hisda said: A dream which is not interpreted is like a letter which is not read?8 Say rather then, he should have a good turn given to it in the presence of three.

Let him bring three and say to them: I have seen a good dream; and they should say to him, Good it is and good may it be. May the All-Merciful turn it to good; seven times may it be decreed from heaven that it should be good and may it be good.

They should say three verses with the word hapak [turn], and three with the word padah [redeem] and three with the word shalom [peace].


Three with the word 'turn', namely (i) Thou didst turn for me my mourning into dancing, Thou didst loose my sackcloth and gird me with gladness;9 (ii) Then shall the virgin rejoice in the dance, and the young men and the old together; for I will turn their mourning into joy and will comfort them and make them rejoice from their sorrow;10 (iii) Nevertheless the Lord thy God would not hearken unto Balaam; but the Lord thy God turned the curse into a blessing unto thee.11


Three verses with the word 'redeem', namely, (i) He hath redeemed my soul in peace, so that none came nigh me;12 (ii) And the redeemed of the Lord shall return and come with singing unto Zion and sorrow and sighing shall flee away;13 (iii) And the people said unto Saul, Shall Jonathan die who hath wrought this great salvation in Israel? So the people redeemed Jonathan that he died not.14


Three verses with the word 'peace', namely, (i) Peace, peace, to him that is far off and to him that is near, saith the Lord that createth the fruit of the lips; and I will heal him;15 (ii) Then the spirit clothed Amasai who was chief of the captains: Thine are we, David, and on thy side, thou son of Jesse: Peace, peace, be unto thee and peace be to thy helpers, for thy God helpeth thee;16 (iii) Thus ye shall say: All hail! and peace be both unto thee, and peace be to thy house, and peace be unto all that thou hast.17
 
Here's something else...

Dreamt a disturbing dream, but can't remember it? The Talmud recommends reciting the following prayer while the kohanim bless the people:
"Master of the World! My dreams and I belong to You.... If the dreams are good bolster them like the dreams of Joseph. And if they need to be remedied fix them like the bitter waters that Moses sweetened... Just as You transformed the curses of wicked Balaam into blessings, so too, make all of my dreams be for the best." (Berachot 55)

 
That's sounds so giddy until a dream comes along and its actually a prophecy as a reward for the works of the abominations that is prevalent in a particular religion where their G-d plays second fiddle to alien gods. Ahahahaha.
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