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22-02-2022, 07:14 PM
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As bizarre as this topic sounds, it does seem, thus far, to connect with this thread 'Are Ghosts Real.'
Odd ...
"The Venerable Maria of Jesus of Agreda (1602-1665) was an abbess (the title of a superior of certain communities of nuns following the Benedictine Rule) and mystic."
Sister Mary said she regularly fell into a cataleptic trance, after which she recalled "dreams" in which she was carried to a strange and wild land, where she taught the gospel. As proof of her claim, she was able to provide highly detailed descriptions of the Jamano Indians, including their appearance, clothing, and customs, none of which she could have learned through research since they were fairly recently discovered by the Europeans. How did she learn their language? "I didn’t," she replied. "I simply spoke to them—and God let us understand one another."
https://www.liveabout.com/true-stori...angers-2593448
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Cataleptic trance:
http://encyclopedia.uia.org/en/development/12343190
"....this is a deliberately desired trance-like state when a medium is in a state of deep hypnosis and taken over by some other intelligence, which uses the medium's body to speak and act."
This is beginning to sound paranormal.
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22-02-2022, 07:45 PM
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Cataleptic trance:
http://encyclopedia.uia.org/en/development/12343190
"....this is a deliberately desired trance-like state when a medium is in a state of deep hypnosis and taken over by some other intelligence, which uses the medium's body to speak and act."
This is beginning to sound paranormal.
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Also sounding like fantasy.....
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22-02-2022, 10:56 PM
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Also sounding like fantasy.....
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This is why a deep analysis is necessary, and I've never looked at this subject. Fantasy can be in there from different experiences ... it always boils down to that.
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23-02-2022, 12:27 AM
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Quote:
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This is why a deep analysis is necessary, and I've never looked at this subject. Fantasy can be in there from different experiences ... it always boils down to that.
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Other than for the curiosity value of this alleged phenomenon you could be on a hiding to nothing as there appears nothing beneficial anyone could do with it.
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23-02-2022, 12:53 AM
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Other than for the curiosity value of this alleged phenomenon you could be on a hiding to nothing as there appears nothing beneficial anyone could do with it.
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Well that's the "benefit" of the non-empathic paranormal approach. It's the same with "alien" experiences - it's not aliens - it's paranormal. What the "benefit?" Confusion.
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23-02-2022, 02:21 AM
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Well that's the "benefit" of the non-empathic paranormal approach. It's the same with "alien" experiences - it's not aliens - it's paranormal. What the "benefit?" Confusion.
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benefit? For others, to help them.....
Spiritually I do nothing unless it has the the potential to help someone else. I research nothing purely for the sake of researching. Your mileage may vary.....
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23-02-2022, 02:46 AM
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benefit? For others, to help them.....
Spiritually I do nothing unless it has the the potential to help someone else.
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Now if you turn that around ... they do what they do to befuddle the masses.
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23-02-2022, 03:27 AM
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Other than for the curiosity value of this alleged phenomenon you could be on a hiding to nothing as there appears nothing beneficial anyone could do with it.
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It does mimics Remote Viewing which the military has taken an interest in. Go read the documents the Catholic Church generated when they investigated her.
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23-02-2022, 05:00 AM
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Now if you turn that around ... they do what they do to befuddle the masses.
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Turn what around and they being who?
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23-02-2022, 05:03 AM
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they do what they do to befuddle the masses.
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I am blessed I am not one of the masses.
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