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17-08-2014, 12:13 PM
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At Earth level,or at modern day human level?
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17-08-2014, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by yolxochitl
At Earth level,or at modern day human level?
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Perhaps! I believe there *can* be heaven on earth.
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17-08-2014, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by yolxochitl
Well,if the All is Everything,then is Human as well,or not?
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Originally Posted by Honza
My take on the matter is that consciousness is not the only essence which pervades everything. Things like conscience and wisdom are all pervasive too.
So in a sense, wisdom and conscience are not just human traits, but are Cosmic Essences. They are all pervasive......but at earth level they are subdued.
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Yes to both of you, correct. However, Pure Spirit does not "think," does not conceptualize about things in the same way humans do. Pure Spirit does not for example define/decide what wisdom is and isn't, what is conscience is and isn't. Pure Spirit IS all wisdom, all conscious. It is the human soul that strives to know wisdom, strives to be fully conscious. Pure Spirit already is all that, fully, completely and eternally. |
17-08-2014, 01:24 PM
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Is Pure spirit then something like a fixed perfection,or It has its own way to expand itself?
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17-08-2014, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Baile
Yes to both of you, correct. However, Pure Spirit does not "think," does not conceptualize about things in the same way humans do. Pure Spirit does not for example define/decide what wisdom is and isn't, what is conscience is and isn't. Pure Spirit IS all wisdom, all conscious. It is the human soul that strives to know wisdom, strives to be fully conscious. Pure Spirit already is all that, fully, completely and eternally.
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This is right, IMO. And, by the way, because Pure Spirit does not define/decide that demonstrates the true meaning of freedom. True freedom has no choices.......there is only one action that is possible when operating from true freedom. |
17-08-2014, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by yolxochitl
Is Pure spirit then something like a fixed perfection,or It has its own way to expand itself?
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I like your question, and way of thinking......I think I know what Honza means and I understand the question of simply 'cosmic consciousness' OR 'cosmic conscientiousness'.
IF we are all a part of the whole enchilada, 'it' (meaning all of us creatures) IS the cosmic wisdom thingy, which encompasses the ability/freedom/whatever to strategize, based on seeing and thinking one way, as opposed to another.
IOW, who's driving this crazy thing? *giggle*
On another forum I visit, someone used the term 'Oneness Blob', cracked me up.
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17-08-2014, 05:24 PM
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We are part of the life of the Whole,indeed
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17-08-2014, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Baile
Yes to both of you, correct. However, Pure Spirit does not "think," does not conceptualize about things in the same way humans do. Pure Spirit does not for example define/decide what wisdom is and isn't, what is conscience is and isn't. Pure Spirit IS all wisdom, all conscious. It is the human soul that strives to know wisdom, strives to be fully conscious. Pure Spirit already is all that, fully, completely and eternally.
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Thinking, as accomplished organically, takes time. Time, we understand is illusory, and along with attending space and gravity.
God is all knowing, and apart from, as well as ever within, "Space/Time".
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17-08-2014, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Morpheus
Thinking, as accomplished organically, takes time. Time, we understand is illusory, and along with attending space and gravity.
God is all knowing, and apart from, as well as ever within, "Space/Time".
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'God' -- I've come to feel -- is perhaps a term to explain whatever it 'is' that brought life to life, heh. God works in mysterious ways, it is often said...and I think 'God' itself IS the mystery of all we see in the Universe -- in existence. Whatever god 'is', may be (could there be any question) the organic way that All came to Be........just as we humans have been known to ascribe human attributes to animals (I forget the word), aren't we doing the same here? Some of us look for answers to questions we may be best off avoiding altogether.
I mean, if 'God' created all -- he created our minds for thinking and I wouldn't discount it wholesale. |
17-08-2014, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Silvergirl
I mean, if 'God' created all -- he created our minds for thinking and I wouldn't discount it wholesale.
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That is how I see it. Our minds are for thinking, our senses are for sensing, our heart is for feeling and so on. Besides, each one of us has a unique personality - all representative of God's ultimate Persona.
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