I AM concentrates on the SELF

[Morpheus]

Let me ask, here, concerning "Bliss"...

Why would people suffer as much persecution as they have, and do, who suffer and die because they will not renounce Jesus? I'm asking.

Which subscribers and believers, have suffered through the ages, and not just today?

www.persecution.org

www.persecution.com

Again, I will suggest as a good read, "Foxe's Book of Martyrs".
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Originally Posted by RabbiO
I think we've danced this dance before, but there really is no I AM in Judaism.

L'shalom,

Peter

Rabbio?, Btw, your lack of response to certain questions speaks volumes, you know.

Originally Posted by Morpheus
The original statement of "I Am" is found in Exodus in the Bible. When God sent Moses to the Pharoah, to release His people.
"Tell him "I Am" hath sent you."

In the New Testament, Jesus stated that, " Before Abraham was, ' I Am'. "

This is supportive of course of the greater reality of the timeless; Eternity, over this illusory world of time and space.

In the greater aspect of things then, who are you?
Merely this organic aspect, evolved, in (illusory) time and space?
Or..?

"This is what you will tell the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you. ..."
Exodus, chapter 3.

[ajay00]

Originally Posted by Honza

Which is fair enough. But I keep getting a block with it. I wonder why and then I remember that Christ said that we ought to Love our neighbour as much as our SELF, and that we ought to Love God too.

So Christ's I AM is threefold. He Loves Himself, but He Loves His neighbour too and God above all. Whereas, Hindu and Buddhist I AM tends to concentrate exclusively on their own self.

Then suppose a prophet named X came and started saying that we ought to love our Self, as well as our neighbour , our neighbour's neighbour too, and God as well, then X would be a superior prophet as per your criteria because he had verbally stated that he loved more.

The list can go on endlessly, with focus on more and more neighbours, and hence the prophet who articulates the greater number of entities he loves would be considered the superior prophet. But it can then be a numbers game and create great confusion over numbers.

The Hindu 'I AM' focusses on the Self , which is to be in a state of awareness, which perceives no duality or dvaita. In short, one loves all.

The Hindu's just made the 'I AM' system, more compact and less confusing.

Originally Posted by Honza

If Hinduism and Buddhism said, as Christ did, that I AM is a matter of Loving others and God as well as your own self then I would be much happier with it. Which they do to a certain extent; but not enough in my opinion.

I am sorry Hinduism and Buddhism have not said so and have not gone the extra mile in terms of attention to detail.

Perhaps they did it to make sure Jesus looks good in front of all.

You never know !

[Honza]

Very clever; yes thankyou!