Can anyone help me understand, sun, ascendant, moon

[Akira]

I know this is not a great deal of information, however for years I have wondered about this combination in a person.

What kind of personality and challenges would someone have with this astrological combination?
Sun: Cancer
Moon: Libra
Ascendant: Libra

All of these signs are cardinal would this be a heavy burden and create a person with phenomenal needs to lead?

Would they be a difficult person to be with in a relationship?

[OmDaath]

Sun sign represents your Conscious will. What you do with your awareness and reason.

Moon sign is your subconscious side, the habits and what your brain has learned to do through repetition- hence it's innate and natural.

Venus is your Interconnectedness, how you relate to others in a romantic sense, your aesthetics, dress sense, etc.

Mars is your libido, drive, the ''lower energies'' like how you express anger.


Ascendant is your social mask, how you appear to the world outside, new people you meet and how you approach life in new situations.


Usually astrologers ask for a complete Natal Chart, to see what aspects each planet makes to one another. For example: Sun in Cancer could make a square aspect to Moon in Libra if both planets are at certain degrees. Such an aspect would point to a constant tension between energies of the sun and moon. That would mean, what you want consciously is tugging against what you're comfortable with. Which creates tension and then resolve.
However if those two don't make that aspect to one another, the signs are still at a natural square, but without the said aspect. It would be significantly less so.

Now this is one aspect only. Knowing how many planets, houses, signs and aspects are in only one Natal Chart, it would take a book to describe a person by looking at the chart.
But the overall synopsis could be made. You just need the Chart to help.
Another example, you could have many other harsh aspects making contact to sun or moon, which would modify the interpretation to a great extent. So this given information is not enough.

[Imperator]

Your moon and ascendant make up your personality. It is Libra so it comes across as wanting things done right by the book so-to-speak. The challenge with this is that the book is often wrong and so your personality can think it is right and be correcting things on the outside that do not need fixed and causing trouble that way.

As for your sun, it is more your body and your soul area in the physical realm, and it is in Cancer. It is more of an emotional manipulator and wants a lot of friends around it to protect and defend. The shadow side of this is claiming innocence whenever not.

Having a personality going one way and a body going another is a conflict. Also, having an ascendant where your moon is means people will see your moon personality more than your body. And you may even see yourself that way too.

Unfortunately, from a lower self perspective, the ascendant moon Libra personality combination is likely to lose out every time even if you are doing things by the book. This is because, although you can use your personality and popularity to position yourself via this, it is not your actual self, which is divine being in nature going in its own direction unhindered by concept label rule books.

[Akira]

Thanks OmDaath and Imperator - this isn't actually my combination it's a combination of someone else. However your information has helped me to understand a few things that I was puzzling before. It just seems like such a heavy combination to me with the three fold cardinal aspect. The need to lead must be very strong. I am no astrologer though so this has always just been conjecture or an idea...

[OmDaath]

Right,but out of 4 cardinal signs, Cancer and Libra seem to be the most agreeable ones. I think the tension is more inner than outward one. As these signs can take a lot, and keep it bottled, then explode. On closest people in their life.
Because showing anger is socially unacceptable, so they do it to their closest people at home.
This person would also be quite sensitive to rejection, and social ridicule. Even if it is only perceived by them only.

They'd be quite touchy in a close relationship. Especially around harsher personalities. Giving but would have a watchful eye in case you start taking them for granted. Would try to bring their better side forward in all cases, be it sincere or just an act.

Ascendant conjunct Moon (by sign) would mean how they appear to new people is usually pretty similar how they act when on their own, around close people.

[OmDaath]

Yes, the leader's quality is there. They are happy when in charge. When they want to lead. Most of the time they just want to live and let live.

[Sapphirez]

hi Akira. I'm not sure if you wanted information about the different placements as your title suggests, or if you just want a reading about this person, but either way I wanted to post.

The father of my child actually has two of those, a Libra Sun like me, and a Cancer Moon. His Ascendant is Sagittarius though but I'm sure he still has a lot in common with the person in question. So he is a very generous and sensitive person, who is a bit reticent and prefers to be at home. though he does like adventure and did a lot of that earlier in his life especially due to the Sagittarius rising but I don't know if having Libra rising would make someone more or less social. either way with a Cancer Moon they're bound to value their home and feel most comfortable there. and with Libra in the mix it is probably decorated rather lovely, but might be on the conservative and simple side due to Cancer. not that Cancer isn't creative and artistic and magical, just that they kind of pride themselves on being 'sophisticated' and Libra is like that too at least a little bit though not in the same way. Double Libra might make them more luxurious and cancel out a little of the Cancer side. but another great thing about Cancer is that it is quirky and has a unique sense of humor. but the emotions can be too contained and there might be subsequent lashing out or explosion eventually, or you might just get too many cold shoulders. With Libra energy they are likely more invested in the relationship and their partner. So just try to be considerate cuz they'll pay attention to stuff like that. and will really appreciate sentiment and appreciation and understanding of them by you.

Hopefully they've adopted some artistic hobbies for expression as that'd help them deal with emotions and the mind mumbo jumbo that can accumulate and torture Libras, as I should know lol.. since it is an Air planet, though it is ruled by Venus, so that means there would be excess thinking about feeling and desires and the environment and whatever Venus governs. Venus and the Moon both have to do with feelings, but they're just different kinds and well the Moon actually goes more into the mental realm too, so that's kind of interesting since Libra is an Air planet which is also the element of thought and mind power. Venus and the Moon together are the heart and head, each giving itself to both in different ways. I mean the spirit or soul is in there too lol but hopefully his is making sense. I guess that each part of our bodies or beings an be represented by various signs but some more than others or in different aspects

[Akira]

Omdaath - I agree with a lot of what you have said - Especially the taking out their anger and being touchy...

Sapphirez - Wow thank you, what a lovely detailed response. I really appreciate it... I loved the part about the sense of humour - cold shoulders and having the propensity to lash out. It does explain a great deal. Interestingly the part you say about feelings really explains a great deal and thank you re: the creative, artistic advice and how it will help them with their emotions.

Quick question - if you don't mind. You say that Libra's emotions torture them, is there any other outlet that can help them bar creativity?

Big thank you to you both :)

[OmDaath]

Originally Posted by Akira

Omdaath - I agree with a lot of what you have said - Especially the taking out their anger and being touchy...

Sapphirez - Wow thank you, what a lovely detailed response. I really appreciate it... I loved the part about the sense of humour - cold shoulders and having the propensity to lash out. It does explain a great deal. Interestingly the part you say about feelings really explains a great deal and thank you re: the creative, artistic advice and how it will help them with their emotions.

Quick question - if you don't mind. You say that Libra's emotions torture them, is there any other outlet that can help them bar creativity?

Big thank you to you both :)

:)
Is the person in question a male or female?
Usually for men, their mars placements count more or as much as a moon for a woman.
So that would be interesting to know, to give you a better picture.

I wouldn't say Libra's emotions torture them, it's air moon sign, so they would rationalize themselves out of any emotion. Generally tend to be detached. Socializing would be a good outlet for them.

[Sapphirez]

thank you Akira I am so glad my reply spoke to you some. well there are so many ways to deal with being a human so all sorts of things would help. the best technique I've found to deal with issues is called EFT Emotional Freedom Technique and there's a section on this forum for it actually, but it's not busy so while you could find worthwhile information there, you might rather or also check out youtube videos or other places or forums online. it's a surprisingly popularized technique though most have no idea what it is. it is even validated by scientific studies for helping with a variety of issues, from mental disorders like phobias and ptsd, to different pains or recovery after illness or surgery, to even being useful for improving golf or basketball game scores!

it's the closest technique I've found to a panacea, though it can require some work and dedication despite it being a very simple technique. basically it's like affirmations and acupressure point tapping. but it goes much deeper than that. it works in amazing ways and can be life-changing or at least paradigm shifting, it helps you get to the core of issues and overcome latent unnecessary energies holding you back.

So that's one great way to deal with unkempt emotions. there are also other things like emdr which is also scientifically proven, and actually one book I read about a version of EFT called ESM Emotional Self Management (book: Instant Emotional Healing) the doctors who authored it incorporate some extra things into some of their techniques, such as eye rolling which emdr is but of course it's a bit more than that.. and humming and counting are in one of the ESM techniques. I've had a really interesting journey learning about healing, because I ultimately came to realize that almost anything humans naturally do is healing. I spent years afraid to do too many things at once because if something finally worked I wanted to know what it was.. til I finally realized almost everything works. it just all can't work as a cure instantaneously. and I also found that the diet and healing the physical body is extremely important.

Actually when I first started doing EFT years ago I realized that in my early tapping attempts. that I couldn't hope to heal my brain and emotions or mental state efficiently if I didn't heal my body first. I'll skip about a decade til now lol.. Now I've still yet to do the things I know I should to heal my body better, but I have made a lot of changes to almost be there anyway. I can talk more about that if you are interested but won't get into it if not. It seems important to clear the physical slate though so that mental, emotional, and spiritual energies have a clearer channel and avenues to travel freely. I've heard that detoxifying and healing the body also helps to purge old toxic emotions.


Something else I'd highly recommend is some light exercises. If you want to just get fit and toned the best thing to do is simple interval training, where you do something with a lot of intensity, like run really fast as fast as you can, or do some speedy jumping jacks or whatever, for a small amount of time like 20 seconds, then you rest for half a minute to a minute, or longer if you need.. then be speedy quick again and then rest and do that about half a dozen times. and that will be a more successful workout than what most people achieve in 2 hours at the gym.
but the light exercises I really recommend are more conscientious, like Donna Eden energy exercises. She is an incredible enlightened woman who's been sharing ancient modern healing technique exercises for years and loves to educate people about how the human being works energetically and whatnot. And, I knew about EFT for years before I stumbled upon her, but it turns out her husband is a man who wrote a paper on EFT that I'd been sharing for a long time. I feel so lucky to have found out about her, it put everything into a different perspective. I can link you to some of the things I've seen of hers if you want, or also her daughters are into healing too and they share a youtube playlist with her where they do one minute energy exercises, or did, on Wednesdays, so there are a bunch of them that are so easy to do and you'll learn a little bit while flipping through some. but I'll give you an example, a lot of them are just really common movements but they explain how or why they work. things we take for granted or don't realize we're doing, such as putting our hands on our chins or forehead or crossing our arms. They teach that making figure 8s helps heal the body and build up energy, and tapping or thumping certain places gets your lymphatic system going and easy ways to stimulate other organs and so on. Many of the techniques have roots in ancient healing systems. Donna Eden has a daily energy routine she recommends to jumpstart yourself in about 5 minutes, but there are a lot more techniques and tools and tips you can learn from her or her daughters. One other exercise routine that I found to be most worthwhile and not difficult to get into is The 5 Tibetan Rites. it's just a series of quick yoga movements that apparently impact all of the chakras and organ bodily systems and such. and you just start out with 3 of each for however long and when you're comfortable you slowly move up til one day the max is 21 of each of the 5 rites. and that can take you months or years if you want, but they're great little exercises that are fun and feel good.


it's important to write if we want to control and understand our emotions better. you could just free-write in a notebook whatever you're feeling or thinking, or try poetry, or pair writing with pictures or another form of art, but by saying 'bar creativity' did you mean besides creativity? I was a little confused lol but anyways it's good to write, however you can get yourself to do it. make up stories or just write down a sentence or phrase.. one of my favorite things to do is pick a beautiful or interesting picture online (or I saved like thousands to a folder on my computer lol) and get inspired by it and write a line to go with it. or you can do that with a picture or art that already has an inspirational quote on it, just reflect on it for yourself and then come up with your own that fits the theme. I filled up notebooks with random thoughts and quotes or ideas I made up, but I haven't written much in them the last year or so. it's important to write however you can get yourself to do it. helping others can often help us with our own emotions and circumstances.


deep breathing, breathing through the nose, from the stomach or even from the ground or middle of the Earth, holding the breath, and then exhaling lengthily. one cool meditation I was given once (haven't done too much meditation) seemed really effective when I tried to do it and I actually kind of had my body quiver or my stomach roll in and out uncontrollably, which that stuff has only happened to me a couple times when doing EFT before..

but so this meditation has you muster up all the negative emotions and feelings and thoughts and resentments and whatever you feel doesn't belong, and focus it to your feet which have an opening to the middle of the Earth, and you imagine all that darkness and yuckiness funneling to the center of the Earth.. keep going as long as you can til you don't feel that shaky yucky energy anymore.. I personally wasn't able to do it long enough to feel like it was all on its way out lol but hopefully others have better luck or commitment than me.. but so you get all that darkness to the center of the planet below you, and there is a wonderful place that the Earth recycles negative unwanted energy, and she transmutes and transforms it into positive new energy that can feed other life and bless the planet. it kind of reminds me of a fake hell lol, because I don't believe in hell, but the idea of hell involves a lot of suffering and darkness, and all that could be transformed and that energy used for good. and Earth does this kind of thing all the time, and humans can too. So you send your unwanted energy and emotions and everything to the center of the Earth, and you have your feet chakras or whatever you want to call them open, and then you receive a lovely enchanting iridescent glowing green earthy energy from her. and you receive as much of that as you feel you need now til you're all filled up, and every inch of you is practically bursting with this wonderful green energy that is natural to you, and then you open your crown chakra or the top of your head, and receive this white, golden, whatever combination you want, brilliant light, this divine healing energy from the Sun and you have that fill your head and body and being, and the iridescent green shoots up and they combine and marry until you are over full and then that energy bursts out into a beautiful magnificent rainbow colorful light that shoots out into the rest of the universe and world around you.
something simpler to do if color energy healing like that is of any interest is using the violet flame, or just green earthly energy or pink, especially apparently you can send pink light to someone else who is upset. but you can do all sorts of things like this and make up your own. and combining different healing techniques usually makes them all much stronger and more effective together. All of the sense are healing and the body and brain or mind in so many ways. It's about applying consciousness and creativity, and gratitude because that is another important key, or the key to happiness and peace.



OmDaath oh that is very interesting about the Mars placement for men involving emotions! I've got a man with a Mars & Venus conjunction in Leo in the 8th house lol, so that probably alters the way he is a lot huh?


do you know their other placements Akira?

well OmDaath when I wrote what I wrote I didn't read carefully enough and thought that the Moon was in Cancer and the Sun Libra, as my fiance's is. but most of what I said just had to do with the signs and those three placements in general, not specifically about them being where I mistook them to be. I mean that Libras care so much about other people or are so focused on them, and that stuff gets stuck in the head.. at least in mine. but I do have a Pisces rising so you may have a valid point there. My fiance tries to numb his emotions though he is a very sensitive person, but again that's with a Libra Sun and Cancer Moon so Idno.. His Moon is in the 7th house though. as is mine, and I have a stellium in Scorpio also so that also contributes to me being more emotional haha. I can't claim to know what goes on in my fiance's head so I can't disagree with you at all and he does seem aloof at times. but he really is sensitive and cares a great deal about people, pick up a hitchhiker or go bring blankets and quinoa to the homeless type of caring lol, and took me in when I had nowhere to go, but anyways I also sense some ridiculous misguided arrogance and stuff probably from the Leo placements but I'm not trying to highjack this thread sorry Akira

but just because a sign is Air doesn't mean it doesn't feel or internally express that. I recall having an issue with Aquarius' supposed detachment, and on this forum someone with that sign told me that it may take them a while, but if they really care about someone then they will fix themselves around them and make a cozy home there, since it's fixed air, and I know I am not doing justice to the words they used or how they said it, but that helped me understand them better and they did warn that if you hurt Aquarius they will likely never return, but I saw how they were a lot more sensitive than they want to admit and it seemed to ring true. I think that a Cancer Sun would bring enough emotion and sensitivity into the mix to offset a lot of Libra detachment and would create a struggle in the mind, I mean that is literally what it does right, with the angle of Libra to Cancer being a square? Now if the Mercury is Cancer, Gemini, or Leo, that will tell a lot more. and and the houses of everything would too.


I didn't really answer about the leadership question. I think that they would want to do things their own way, or at least inspire others' choices, but secretly they would just want to be held and adored and cared for. You'll have to break through their shell and topple their scales lol, but gently