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Old 30-12-2016, 11:39 AM
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I am pretty hopeless with my own daily meditation. But I am aware of late going back to my weekly med class with a good friend and her group it does feel good to be in that zone again. I also noticed three days in a course which was predominately meditation four times each day, that I felt more alive, more "awake" and just felt really centred. I guess it was a good throw back for me to realize it really could support me now where I am in myself for a few reasons. I would dearly love to motivate myself do get up, walk, do yoga and then meditate. Then go about my day. Why don't I do that? I think it comes back to self discipline for me. When I go to yoga three times a week with a group, its easy. Same with meditation. But ultimately I want to make it my own practice. 2017 who knows?
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Old 31-12-2016, 12:56 AM
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The point is: as long as you experience 'meditation' it is just artifice which constructs transient experience. There may be some shorter or longer aftermath influenced by this meditational artifice, but that is bound to fade away too.
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Old 31-12-2016, 01:11 AM
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The point is: as long as you experience 'meditation' it is just artifice which constructs transient experience. There may be some shorter or longer aftermath influenced by this meditational artifice, but that is bound to fade away too.

Life is transient, but we still "live" the experience of life itself in many ways of life through the various ways we wish to create a life.We still become part of the process of the lived experience.

Regardless, I still see what your saying and it fits the picture.
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Old 31-12-2016, 01:29 AM
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Life is transient, but we still "live" the experience of life itself in many ways of life through the various ways we wish to create a life.We still become part of the process of the lived experience.

Regardless, I still see what your saying and it fits the picture.
There is a source behind all of this.
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Old 31-12-2016, 01:31 AM
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There is a source behind all of this.

There is a source behind all of this.
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Old 31-12-2016, 11:18 AM
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I am pretty hopeless with my own daily meditation. But I am aware of late going back to my weekly med class with a good friend and her group it does feel good to be in that zone again. I also noticed three days in a course which was predominately meditation four times each day, that I felt more alive, more "awake" and just felt really centred. I guess it was a good throw back for me to realize it really could support me now where I am in myself for a few reasons. I would dearly love to motivate myself do get up, walk, do yoga and then meditate. Then go about my day. Why don't I do that? I think it comes back to self discipline for me. When I go to yoga three times a week with a group, its easy. Same with meditation. But ultimately I want to make it my own practice. 2017 who knows?

Yes I started the thread because I'm hopeless, whereas I used place it as a high priority - but I have become highly physical in the last 6 months with weight training and special diet, so maybe it's time for body work. but if I could put some meditation time in the routine that'd be good, and I do waste a lot of time with SF and chats and other unnecessary entertainment. Maybe this new year is a catalyst for reconsidering priorities, though, and really, it's very easy for me, as I do have a lot of spare time. Just need to get organised, which is really the first step to take.
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Old 31-12-2016, 12:07 PM
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You are definitely not hopeless. It is good you are taking care of your body as well as your mind. You will find your balance. Perhaps you need to get up a wee bit earlier in the morning to fit in meditation, then go to the gym or whenever you go.

My life has been completely turned upside down the past few years and I've been slowly wading through the aftermath...clearing out this, clearing out that...emotions are wonky...but I find them evening out albeit slowly. Not one for new year's resolutions but organizing my goals and setting time for things I want/need to do.

How's school going?
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Old 31-12-2016, 01:33 PM
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Not one for new year's resolutions
Happy New Year *sister! My experience: inspired will is a result of spiritual epiphany and higher self awakening. Definitely not a scheduled decision-making thing that happens once a year on Jan 1.
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Old 31-12-2016, 01:44 PM
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Yes I started the thread because I'm hopeless, whereas I used place it as a high priority - but I have become highly physical in the last 6 months with weight training and special diet, so maybe it's time for body work. but if I could put some meditation time in the routine that'd be good, and I do waste a lot of time with SF and chats and other unnecessary entertainment. Maybe this new year is a catalyst for reconsidering priorities, though, and really, it's very easy for me, as I do have a lot of spare time. Just need to get organised, which is really the first step to take.

I think our life experiences change and we try new things, let go of things we once did and so everything shifts around. I think also, sometimes for myself, balance deepens and when I realize I need or want to fit something from my past back in, it comes back into more integrating it in so I get everything done and moving in balance of all life happenings.

When you kind of saturated in some things, at certain times of your life, it is easier because you actually let it be the centre of your world for a time. I think when you find your own centre, balance is really bringing all that which was (if you want too continue) into a space of shared life balance. Right now Yoga is my call. My body wants it and so I will do it frequently because I love it. It is my current bigger immersion space. I might need to think about letting go of here as a daily thing and like my coffee now make it a weekly thing. It so easy to ride the flow here if you visit each day. You kind of end up following threads. But anyway I may see less need in that I suspect over the coming weeks. I have other projects that I want to do. And the longer I hang out here, the less of that happens. I think I need to start adding some kind of planning process into my day..

Its really hard for me because my old nature is really more in tune with being spontaneous and going with the flow pretty chilled and whatever falls falls kind of being. But I can see now days if I am to fit everything in, I have to develop a routine. Even saying that word brings on dread for me. So maybe there is something in there I can look at. Or maybe have a few days planned and a few days to be more spontaneous.

I guess as the new year and routines start kicking in again, I will see more so where I am at.

What I would really love is to maybe go to the Buddhist centre and meditate there with them leading the group...Most of my own network and groups talk to much for my liking. I just want silent meditation and stillness, open my eyes and go home, not participate in talk. They offer this. I feel that kind of defeats the reasons why I want to meditate.
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Old 31-12-2016, 03:48 PM
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I think our life experiences change and we try new things, let go of things we once did and so everything shifts around. I think also, sometimes for myself, balance deepens and when I realize I need or want to fit something from my past back in, it comes back into more integrating it in so I get everything done and moving in balance of all life happenings.

When you kind of saturated in some things, at certain times of your life, it is easier because you actually let it be the centre of your world for a time. I think when you find your own centre, balance is really bringing all that which was (if you want too continue) into a space of shared life balance. Right now Yoga is my call. My body wants it and so I will do it frequently because I love it. It is my current bigger immersion space. I might need to think about letting go of here as a daily thing and like my coffee now make it a weekly thing. It so easy to ride the flow here if you visit each day. You kind of end up following threads. But anyway I may see less need in that I suspect over the coming weeks. I have other projects that I want to do. And the longer I hang out here, the less of that happens. I think I need to start adding some kind of planning process into my day..

Its really hard for me because my old nature is really more in tune with being spontaneous and going with the flow pretty chilled and whatever falls falls kind of being. But I can see now days if I am to fit everything in, I have to develop a routine. Even saying that word brings on dread for me. So maybe there is something in there I can look at. Or maybe have a few days planned and a few days to be more spontaneous.

I guess as the new year and routines start kicking in again, I will see more so where I am at.

What I would really love is to maybe go to the Buddhist centre and meditate there with them leading the group...Most of my own network and groups talk to much for my liking. I just want silent meditation and stillness, open my eyes and go home, not participate in talk. They offer this. I feel that kind of defeats the reasons why I want to meditate.

Routine is better, I'm sure. 'Go with the flow' is something hippies made up because they were too stoned to get their act together. I'm just a little too disorganised to put it together and keep it up, but it starts with bedtime and time to get up, which is my downfall, always up too late with this silly computer stuff. I have to get off the computer otherwise I waste a hell of a lot of time
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