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25-11-2017, 10:29 AM
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I was going to quote one of the sutta's here I felt may contain a pointer in the right direction.
I'll suffice with a link to it however.
Sabbasava Sutta: All the Fermentations
WIth Love
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25-11-2017, 01:30 PM
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Are we….
The source of thought if thinking is not the source itself
The source of feeling is not, itself feeling.
The source of time and space is not moving in time and space.
The observer as a silent witness, unmoved and unmovable.
The source, unfolding our infinite potential into our own time/space as perception itself; as thought, form, otherness, feeling, continuity, experience.
Our we, standing eternally in our own infinite potential, as both everything and no-thing, As the source of all that is expressed, nothing is unknown, and yet there is nothing to know.
The source of movement, you are utterly still.
The source of the illusion of separateness, you are utterly whole and complete.
That which is present in this moment is locked in place by it's own infinity and eternity. It can become neither more nor less, neither confused nor certain, neither here nor there, neither now nor then. Wholeness can acquire nothing. That which is all and nothing has nowhere to move. That which is already infinite, cannot become.
It simply and eternally is.?
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25-11-2017, 01:36 PM
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Thank you for the link, I will reflect upon its contents.
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25-11-2017, 04:38 PM
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In Buddhism, there's the whole concept of Anatta or Anatman which literally translates to "no self" or "no soul".
https://www.britannica.com/topic/anatta
I hope this explains it.
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25-11-2017, 04:49 PM
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Which sort of has me thinking...the Buddhists also believe in the notion of Reincarnation, so if there is Anatta, what actually transmigrates?
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25-11-2017, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Shivani Devi
Which sort of has me thinking...the Buddhists also believe in the notion of Reincarnation, so if there is Anatta, what actually transmigrates?
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No reincarnation in Buddhism SD.
It is the mental energy which is carried over in rebirth.
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25-11-2017, 05:07 PM
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Rebirth...
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25-11-2017, 05:14 PM
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No reincarnation in Buddhism SD.
It is the mental energy which is carried over in rebirth.
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Greetings sky. I have skimmed that link you posted and came across this:
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Other critics claim that rebirth was not a part of the Buddha's original teachings or that the Buddha copied the idea of rebirth from the Hindu doctrine of reincarnation. Both these claims are contradicted by the evidence. The doctrine of rebirth is an integral part of the earliest records of the Buddha's teachings as preserved in the Pali Tipitaka and there is no evidence that it is a later interpolation. An examination of pre-Buddhist Hindu literature shows that the idea of reincarnation or rebirth was not widely accepted. It is not mentioned in either the Vedas or the Brahmana Sutras. Several Upansads teach it while others condemn it as heresy. So the idea was apparently current before the Buddha but it was not widely accepted and it was certainly not a part of orthodox Hinduism, something that only happened much later, probably as a result of Buddhist influence.
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Which sort of begs the question, what is the difference between 'rebirth' and 'reincarnation'? and if Buddhists believe in Karma, as they do, isn't Karma also carried over in the whole re-birthing process?
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25-11-2017, 05:19 PM
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Also interesting to note that Hindus didn't believe in reincarnation until the Buddhists introduced it to them....fascinating!
No wonder I found the whole doctrine a bitter pill to swallow being a Vedic scholar...fascinating!
I need to muse upon this.
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25-11-2017, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Shivani Devi
Greetings sky. I have skimmed that link you posted and came across this:
Which sort of begs the question, what is the difference between 'rebirth' and 'reincarnation'? and if Buddhists believe in Karma, as they do, isn't Karma also carried over in the whole re-birthing process?
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They explain the differences in reincarnation and rebirth as that in reincarnation it involves a soul and rebirth is mental energy. Kamma is carried over.
Who knows if all these teachings came from Buddha or not, but they are very important in Buddhism. Some Schools do differ slightly on rebirth but the core teaching is the same.
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