Is it alright for a Buddhist to pray to lord Jesus?

[Ground]

Originally Posted by sky123

If Siddhartha hadn't had goals we wouldn't have Buddhism

But that's due to the goal the others had. This guy was just expressing his individual experience because of being alive.

A living bird is singing, not because it has the goal to sing, but because it is living.

[sky]

Originally Posted by markings

Having a goal is the same as having an attachment. Even if you play. A game is an activity where something is declared to be more important than something else. In this case winning is more important than losing. Nobody plays a game where losing is preferable to winning. In order to play the game one must attach to winning and even if one loses one remains attached to winning.

You can have goals without attachments, accepting the outcome or end results of your goals is the way. Letting things be without clinging to the idea that everything should end up as you prefer it to be.

[markings]

Originally Posted by Joe Mc

No you should never pray to Lord Jesus if your a Buddhist because Lord Jesus never existed because you'd be praying to non existence ! Hang on a minute Buddhists believe in non existence don't they ? So yes it's ok to pray to Lord Jesus but don't tell any fundamentalist right wing Christians that is what your doing or you might have to face some consequences, not from Lord Jesus of course but from them !!! lol

It is never ok for a Buddhist to pray to Jesus because Jesus represents a different mindset, world view and way to liberation.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Ground

But that's due to the goal the others had. This guy was just expressing his individual experience because of being alive.

A living bird is singing, not because it has the goal to sing, but because it is living.

He passed his experiences on to others, that was his goal, he could have remained silent.

[Ground]

Originally Posted by sky123

He passed his experiences on to others, that was his goal, he could have remained silent.

That is the perception of those who are obsessed with goals.

[markings]

Originally Posted by sky123

You can have goals without attachments, accepting the outcome or end results of your goals is the way. Letting things be without clinging to the idea that everything should end up as you prefer it to be.

This doesn't make sense.
A goal inherently aims for something different than the status quo. A goal implies a desired change. It implies action.
That the outcome may not conform to the desired result, and how to deal with this, is another matter.

[markings]

Originally Posted by Ground

But that's due to the goal the others had. This guy was just expressing his individual experience because of being alive.

A living bird is singing, not because it has the goal to sing, but because it is living.

The Buddha was dissatisfied with the outcome he got through the teachers he visited and worked with.
He resolved that there must be a better way and set out to discover it.
How is that not having a goal?

[Ground]

Originally Posted by markings

The Buddha was dissatisfied with the outcome he got through the teachers he visited and worked with.
He resolved that there must be a better way and set out to discover it.
How is that not having a goal?

Provided this budddha ever existed, don't you think that an ignorant person can overcome his ignorance? I think so. So while striving for the achievement of a goal an individual may see the stupidity of its endeavor.

And he discerns that 'Whatever is fabricated & mentally fashioned is inconstant & subject to cessation.' For him — thus knowing, thus seeing — the mind is released from the effluent of sensuality, the effluent of becoming, the effluent of ignorance. With release, there is the knowledge, 'Released.' MN121

[sky]

Originally Posted by markings

This doesn't make sense.
A goal inherently aims for something different than the status quo. A goal implies a desired change. It implies action.
That the outcome may not conform to the desired result, and how to deal with this, is another matter.

It makes perfect sense to a Buddhist

[sky]

Originally Posted by Joe Mc

No you should never pray to Lord Jesus if your a Buddhist because Lord Jesus never existed because you'd be praying to non existence ! Hang on a minute Buddhists believe in non existence don't they ? So yes it's ok to pray to Lord Jesus but don't tell any fundamentalist right wing Christians that is what your doing or you might have to face some consequences, not from Lord Jesus of course but from them !!! lol

What do you mean by non-existence Joe ?