Hell is a joke - Page 2

AlwaysDayAfterYesterday · #11 22-06-2017, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kine Lea

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Apparently not.

If salvation were up to the individual, no one would ever be saved. As with all creation, hell is a function of goodness, only seen by wrong view. Satan and his Angels is the accuser, or our collective conscience. We do not wrestle with flesh and blood, but against the rulers in the Son (Colossians 1:15-18). Collectively, the Son is Man. One. Echad is unity of the multiples. ONE. There is only one saved, and he emptied hell in 1 Peter 3. All of us. We are each reborn into this world to see one thing (Revelation 1:7). Even those who pierced him. All of us. Even poor old Job knew this in Job 19. Who has the fault within him? Who must you not hound about it? Read the NIV, Job 19, last three paragraphs to the end. Who has the fault within him? YOU! Him. All of us. Even poor old Job.

AHIYAH · #12 11-07-2017, 05:05 AM

Hell is just a Greek concept, isn't it Hades their God of their underworld? That they made? The Hellens are hereThe Hellens are here. One just need to look at the Hebrew word Sheol it's a word for grave that is translated as Hell. There's another and they are just capitalising on the Fall of both houses of Yaakubah when they disobeyed and was promised a reward for their trespasses, when YHWH turned from them and allowed all things to be done to them. That is the meaning of the 'for ever and ever' which is actually talking about two particular lengths of time. Those days are over and it's time for Yaakubah to rise and Shine. I expect a futile twist to appear in this thread. Waiting waiting lol

Green Tree · #13 11-07-2017, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysDayAfterYesterday

Luke 11:52 - "Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.

Your entire post (the one from which I pulled this quote) is excellent. This above scripture verse is one I've used (in context) to persuade Christians that the church has hindered their entrance to knowledge and understanding. It's too bad that the brainwashing has been so effective

AlwaysDayAfterYesterday · #14 13-07-2017, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Green Tree

Your entire post (the one from which I pulled this quote) is excellent. This above scripture verse is one I've used (in context) to persuade Christians that the church has hindered their entrance to knowledge and understanding. It's too bad that the brainwashing has been so effective

I agree, but it might be for a good reason actually. Justification is relative to enlightenment. As the last paragraph of John 2 states, Jesus would not entrust himself to those coming to him unprepared. The key to this is then given away in John 3. Rebirth is baptism. This is another concept lost on most of the Christian world. Faith if faithfulness. It takes time to develop this quality.