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Old 29-03-2012, 03:13 PM
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The ones that say human pride is a joke. Not a funny one, but a sad, pathetic joke.
Which pride are you speaking of?
- Unreasonable and inordinate self-esteem.
- A feeling of self-respect and personal worth.
- Satisfaction with your (or another's) achievements.
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Old 29-03-2012, 05:16 PM
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Nothing else measures up to the standard of pure awareness and love itself. No need to take it personally.


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Old 29-03-2012, 11:26 PM
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Greetings..

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Nothing else measures up to the standard of pure awareness and love itself. No need to take it personally.


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I don't take it personally, it's a contrived and subjective value.. there's nothing to 'take'. "pure awareness and love itself" are subjective values with different meanings for each experiencer's unique understanding, there is no 'standard' other than the beliefs you choose to accept.. no standard that applies to everyone..

Be well..
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Old 29-03-2012, 11:30 PM
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Greetings..


I don't take it personally, it's a contrived and subjective value.. there's nothing to 'take'. "pure awareness and love itself" are subjective values with different meanings for each experiencer's unique understanding, there is no 'standard' other than the beliefs you choose to accept.. no standard that applies to everyone..

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"Make Reality, not Love."

~ Another Random Consensus ~
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Old 29-03-2012, 11:56 PM
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"Make Reality, not Love."

~ Another Random Consensus ~

Reality is just really what really is and exists. We don't make it. We can make Love however. What precious gifts reality bestows upon us!!

Reality as known to science is the science of the conservation of energy. Nothing real can be either created or destroyed and nothing unreal exists, and in a sense love is not real therefore, but it sure seems like it can be a real lot of fun to create and play with. In a sense, reality is sand and sunshine and all the waters and grasses and all kinds of things, but it is arguable that none of these things can be truly enjoyed without love.
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Old 30-03-2012, 12:19 AM
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Greetings..

When we find the inspiration to let go of ideologies, like "pure awareness and love itself", we can more closely resonate with the silent stillness of 'now'.. the instant before the thoughts begin to shape 'what was" into our beliefs, there was just the 'isness' of creation happening without the descriptive internal narrative.. "pure awareness and love itself" are just ideological descriptions about Life happening, a mental process that shapes a simpler reality into a preferred ideology..

Be well..
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Old 30-03-2012, 01:43 AM
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Nothing real can be either created or destroyed and nothing unreal exists...

I always liked this mind bender from ACIM, Mayflow.


and in a sense love is not real therefore

Except love itself is not created... but is what everything else is created from.


it is arguable that none of these things can be truly enjoyed without love.

I agree. Love creates beauty and enjoyment.


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Old 30-03-2012, 03:29 AM
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Greetings..

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Except love itself is not created... but is what everything else is created from.

Love creates beauty and enjoyment.

Xan
And so.. "love itself" is what hate, and abuse, and oppression, and suffering are created from..

Be well..
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Old 30-03-2012, 03:48 AM
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Which pride are you speaking of?
- Unreasonable and inordinate self-esteem.
- A feeling of self-respect and personal worth.
- Satisfaction with your (or another's) achievements.

Unreasonable and inordinate self-esteem in humanity. Research into the mind has found we choose to do things that are dangerous and don't think anything bad will happen to us. We're disconnected from ourselves and believe things that aren't true. All of our human pride and feelings of power wouldn't mean very much if a giant asteroid hit our fragile little planet.
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Old 30-03-2012, 01:26 PM
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Greetings..


And so.. "love itself" is what hate, and abuse, and oppression, and suffering are created from..

Be well..
Yes! - and ideologies like "resonat[ing] with the silent stillness of 'now'..".
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