why is it so?

[RedEmbers]

Hello community

I am wondering why it seems that sometimes in spiritual communities there seem to be those who believe that they are more spiritually advanced or evolved than others?

this is a genuine question as I don't really understand why it is so.

It seems to me that nobody can really judge where another soul is at... there are billions of different paths we all take and an infinite amount of learning... it seems to me that the opportunity to learn never ends.

I feel that Knowledge is to be discovered through all sorts of people from all sorts... what some people think as a 'less evolved' person... could just be someone who expresses themselves in a way we are not socially accustomed to...or something....

Who are we to really judge someone else as less or more evolved?

We all have our smarts in different areas... we all express ourselves uniquely... doesn't that just make us different? Rather then 'more evolved'

Originally Posted by Colorful-Chameleon

We all have our smarts in different areas... we all express ourselves uniquely... doesn't that just make us different? Rather then 'more evolved'

Often regardless of how 'Spiritual' and 'evolved' people can become, human nature is difficult to run away from.

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by Colorful-Chameleon

Hello community

I am wondering why it seems that sometimes in spiritual communities there seem to be those who believe that they are more spiritually advanced or evolved than others?

this is a genuine question as I don't really understand why it is so.

It seems to me that nobody can really judge where another soul is at... there are billions of different paths we all take and an infinite amount of learning... it seems to me that the opportunity to learn never ends.

I feel that Knowledge is to be discovered through all sorts of people from all sorts... what some people think as a 'less evolved' person... could just be someone who expresses themselves in a way we are not socially accustomed to...or something....

Who are we to really judge someone else as less or more evolved?

We all have our smarts in different areas... we all express ourselves uniquely... doesn't that just make us different? Rather then 'more evolved'

Hi Colorful-Chameleon


There are billions of different self perceptions to be had . There are perceptions had where one man puts himself ahead of another . There are perceptions had where one man feels lesser than another . There is no stopping how one feels about themselves in relation to what they think and feel and know themselves to be in relation to everything .

How one perceives self will reflect in how they perceive the world .

If you understand that then you will understand why one feels more or less than .


x daz x

[RedEmbers]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

Often regardless of how 'Spiritual' and 'evolved' people can become, human nature is difficult to run away from.

Yes... after a few months of personal spiritual exploration, after trying to connect and live by the direction of 'higher self conciousness' I soon quickly realised how very human I am... with this though... I came back down to earth and felt very at home with all the humaness lol... what I see when I am faced with another is how wise and also how silly we all are...

This is why I find it sort of difficult understanding the idea of well... I guess me being any more spiritually evolved than another...

Funnily enough though I do often feel quite a bit 'less advanced' when I meet certain people lol.

[RedEmbers]

Originally Posted by God-Like

Hi Colorful-Chameleon


There are billions of different self perceptions to be had . There are perceptions had where one man puts himself ahead of another . There are perceptions had where one man feels lesser than another . There is no stopping how one feels about themselves in relation to what they think and feel and know themselves to be in relation to everything .

How one perceives self will reflect in how they perceive the world .

If you understand that then you will understand why one feels more or less than .


x daz x

thanks daz...

I can think of parallels of thought as metaphors to help me understand.

Originally Posted by Colorful-Chameleon

Hello community

I am wondering why it seems that sometimes in spiritual communities there seem to be those who believe that they are more spiritually advanced or evolved than others?

this is a genuine question as I don't really understand why it is so.

It seems to me that nobody can really judge where another soul is at... there are billions of different paths we all take and an infinite amount of learning... it seems to me that the opportunity to learn never ends.

I feel that Knowledge is to be discovered through all sorts of people from all sorts... what some people think as a 'less evolved' person... could just be someone who expresses themselves in a way we are not socially accustomed to...or something....

Who are we to really judge someone else as less or more evolved?

We all have our smarts in different areas... we all express ourselves uniquely... doesn't that just make us different? Rather then 'more evolved'

This guy talks about this in his past life regression experiences with others.
which surprised me somewhat..but its really interesting to ponder his ideas ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnCr4etOZLw

[Cmt12]

Originally Posted by Colorful-Chameleon

Hello community

I am wondering why it seems that sometimes in spiritual communities there seem to be those who believe that they are more spiritually advanced or evolved than others?

this is a genuine question as I don't really understand why it is so.

It seems to me that nobody can really judge where another soul is at... there are billions of different paths we all take and an infinite amount of learning... it seems to me that the opportunity to learn never ends.

I feel that Knowledge is to be discovered through all sorts of people from all sorts... what some people think as a 'less evolved' person... could just be someone who expresses themselves in a way we are not socially accustomed to...or something....

Who are we to really judge someone else as less or more evolved?

We all have our smarts in different areas... we all express ourselves uniquely... doesn't that just make us different? Rather then 'more evolved'

If you believe in spiritual development (which I do) then by definition you are going to see some people as more spiritually evolved than others. That doesn't mean that there is any judgment being passed - there shouldn't be.

Originally Posted by Colorful-Chameleon

Hello community

I am wondering why it seems that sometimes in spiritual communities there seem to be those who believe that they are more spiritually advanced or evolved than others?

Simply because they are - for any number of reasons. (see Cmt12's post above.)

this is a genuine question as I don't really understand why it is so.

Humanity and everything is a spiritual community. So, taking humans alone you can see that many (in a manner of speaking) aren't even awakened yet while others have stripped away illusion, assumed their selfhood and are working toward reuniting with the divine - the Great Work. So possibly your not understanding is more to do with not appreciating the range of possible Taos, paths, practices, accomplishments, etc. You could ask the same of the sensual arts. It's when you reveal your true selfhood to yourself that this starts to make sense.

It seems to me that nobody can really judge where another soul is at... there are billions of different paths we all take and an infinite amount of learning... it seems to me that the opportunity to learn never ends.

Right on. But I don't think it's so much about judging as a seeker recognising (from such outward signs as are available) that another has yet to evolve or is more evolved. It's partly down to amount and quality of experience. Difficult on sites like this where we have to rely on words when words are fairly useless. But it isn't a competition - no "my spiritual state is better than yours!" or "I'm winning because I'm more evolved." We know in ourselves and maybe compare with others - but our paths are always our own.

I feel that Knowledge is to be discovered through all sorts of people from all sorts... what some people think as a 'less evolved' person... could just be someone who expresses themselves in a way we are not socially accustomed to...or something....

Who are we to really judge someone else as less or more evolved?

We all have our smarts in different areas... we all express ourselves uniquely... doesn't that just make us different? Rather then 'more evolved'

Yes. But it's in human nature to compare ourselves to others so we can learn or offer help based on the contrasts. There are as many paths as there are people so perhaps the point is moot.

[RedEmbers]

I could sort of see how perceiving oneself as more evolved could be good and bad.

If I was hypothetically very knowledgeable in ... I dunno... marine biology or golf and I had a good awareness of where I am at in knowledge and talent, I would know what is in my capability to pass on those who are interested.
but just because I am a amazing marine biologist golfer... it just makes me better at those things...
There seems to be many aspects to spirituality... I may well be quite 'advanced' in some areas and not so I others...

It could all go to my head a well though too haha.

Perhaps it is not necessarily a bad thing to see oneself as 'more something'... if that something was for example 'more money'... I could then make choice as to whether I think that makes me somehow better than others... or if I saw it as an opportunity to use my position for something positive. ..

Just rambling here.

Silent whisper.... I will check that video out shortly

[RedEmbers]

Just realised that I was equating one's spiritual level of evolution with them somehow being a better human being... that is sort of like saying that I am a better human because I can speak 10 different languages.