Enlightenment Questions & Answers

Originally Posted by simon

My state of being before the awakening was awakened but unrealised

Who realised this unrealiseation that time ?

Originally Posted by rsingh

How I can get enlightened? What information you need from me to give an answer to this question?

To realise your own enlightenment is so personal, nobody can tell you how to do it as you have to realise it yourself.

if you look within at your natural state of being you will see it just before you rationalise/analyse anything, to get a good look at what it may be for you, try and drop all barriers and just be.

You may get some insights when you are close, at this point is maybe good to seek a teacher to induce the realisation

Originally Posted by chinu

Who realised this unrealiseation that time ?

I have only realised my unrealised state since I have become realised, so in the unrealised state I would say nobody realised I was unrealised, maybe apart from some deep realisation in my unconsciousness(or rather unconsciousness to my human conciousness)

I hope this goes some way to answering your excellent question

Originally Posted by simon

To realise your own enlightenment is so personal, nobody can tell you how to do it as you have to realise it yourself.

if you look within at your natural state of being you will see it just before you rationalise/analyse anything, to get a good look at what it may be for you, try and drop all barriers and just be.

You may get some insights when you are close, at this point is maybe good to seek a teacher to induce the realisation

Realise it yourself & It is good to seek a teacher -- Which type of combination is this ?

Anyhow... Why to seek a teacher, as am talking with a enlightened person (Simon) ?

[psychoslice]

In my apparent realization I realized that it had nothing to do with me. that is the mind body organism, it was beyond the mind, but the experience was through the mind, and of course, because of this, then experience can never be what IS, or what was experienced, do you feel that same way in your apparent realization ?.

Originally Posted by chinu

My question is..

Why enlightened people always seems to be more intrested in conveing their feelings and thoughts to the people who are intrested in realising enlightenment ?

Good question, there are two sides to conveying feelings and thoughts..there is the power from the ego, the fuel for the egoic state of mind, from this perspective it wants to convey it's own power, from the awake state of being you can see and smell it a mile off and find it sometimes quite amusing. From the ultimate aspect of enlightenment, this would be a way of expressing, the quality's of natural state of being lean towards love/compassion for other beings as we ultimately the same being, so we naturally treat others as we would ourselves, so talking and helping others to realise is a natural thing to do.

The enlightened state does not contain anything, so it's leans towards what is mentioned above but actually does not need it..the ego part is pure illusion created with in the universal mind

hope this answers your question

Originally Posted by simon

I have only realised my unrealised state since I have become realised, so in the unrealised state I would say nobody realised I was unrealised, maybe apart from some deep realisation in my unconsciousness(or rather unconsciousness to my human conciousness)

What is the difference between realiseation & deep realiseation ?
or which one is more important from these two ?

I hope this goes some way to answering your excellent question

A enlightened and realised person... But still in the habit of hoping. anyways...

Originally Posted by simon

My state of being before the awakening was awakened but unrealised

what do you mean by unrealized?
As in what effect did unrealized have on your self awareness of your awakened state, for example.

Originally Posted by psychoslice

In my apparent realization I realized that it had nothing to do with me. that is the mind body organism, it was beyond the mind, but the experience was through the mind, and of course, because of this, then experience can never be what IS, or what was experienced, do you feel that same way in your apparent realization ?.

The mind is a totally separate tool from the natural state of being, I would say that the state is beyond experience, as soon as I try to analyse or look at it, I then move away from my natural state of being, I can see ultimate being and all the illusionary stuff side by side.

I would say that realisation of enlightenment is the most personal thing(or no-thing) that is why it cannot be taught to anyone, it has to be self realised

Hope this answers your question

Originally Posted by simon

To realise your own enlightenment is so personal, nobody can tell you how to do it as you have to realise it yourself.

if you look within at your natural state of being you will see it just before you rationalise/analyse anything, to get a good look at what it may be for you, try and drop all barriers and just be.

You may get some insights when you are close, at this point is maybe good to seek a teacher to induce the realisation

Then why are you telling rsingh how to do it?