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Old 08-02-2020, 01:08 PM
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the black hole

A black hole is a place in space where gravity pulls so much that even light can not get out. The gravity is so strong because matter has been squeezed into a tiny space. This can happen when a star is dying.

Because no light can get out, people can't see black holes. They are invisible. Space telescopes with special tools can help find black holes. The special tools can see how stars that are very close to black holes act differently than other stars.

Black holes can be big or small. Scientists think the smallest black holes are as small as just one atom. These black holes are very tiny but have the mass of a large mountain. Mass is the amount of matter, or "stuff," in an object.

Another kind of black hole is called "stellar." Its mass can be up to 20 times more than the mass of the sun. There may be many, many stellar mass black holes in Earth's galaxy. Earth's galaxy is called the Milky Way.

The largest black holes are called "supermassive." These black holes have masses that are more than 1 million suns together. Scientists have found proof that every large galaxy contains a supermassive black hole at its center. The supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy is called Sagittarius A. It has a mass equal to about 4 million suns and would fit inside a very large ball that could hold a few million Earths.
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Old 08-02-2020, 02:57 PM
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Curious coincidence. I had this video queued up for viewing and by the title on the thumbnail "Beyond Words: Reaching Supreme TRUTH - Brahman" one would never suspect it would start out with a reference to black holes, but when I got back from a quick grocery run I checked out SF, read this post and then started the video and was mildly amused.

https://youtu.be/O96DFMAt0co

And here we have the potential for the show of the millennium as Betelgeuse is definitely heading towards the inevitable, a Type II supernova. For all we know it already blew and the wavefront of electromagnetic energy is on its way.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startsw.../#63e3238722db

After blowing a wet and heavy 6 or 7 inches of snow last night I looked up and noticed Orion in the western sky just above the treeline.
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Old 09-02-2020, 01:31 PM
ketzer
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A black hole is a place in space where gravity pulls so much that even light can not get out. The gravity is so strong because matter has been squeezed into a tiny space. This can happen when a star is dying.

Because no light can get out, people can't see black holes. They are invisible. Space telescopes with special tools can help find black holes. The special tools can see how stars that are very close to black holes act differently than other stars.

Black holes can be big or small. Scientists think the smallest black holes are as small as just one atom. These black holes are very tiny but have the mass of a large mountain. Mass is the amount of matter, or "stuff," in an object.
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The largest black holes are called "supermassive." These black holes have masses that are more than 1 million suns together. Scientists have found proof that every large galaxy contains a supermassive black hole at its center. The supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way galaxy is called Sagittarius A. It has a mass equal to about 4 million suns and would fit inside a very large ball that could hold a few million Earths.

Black holes are indeed fascinating “things?”. For something that cannot be seen, they seem to show us a great deal about the universe and the nature of what we call reality. It is not so much that gravity pulls the light into the BH, but that the BH warps the fabric of space time such that the straight forward path that light follows through space, in fact all paths that touch the event horizon of the BH, are warped and bent such that they all lead toward the singularity within. The light feels no more pull than the astronaut in orbit feels his/her weight, both the light and the astronaut are going straight, it is the paths that curve.
“Stuff”, or "matter", exists only in the perception of the conscious observer, prior to that, it exists as a superposition of all possible observations, information about probabilities encoded in a wave function. Mass is better thought of as a property of energy, and matter as a particularly concentrated form of energy. Energy is perhaps better thought of as the medium of choice for consciousness to create forms and actions to observe information. BHs contain an immense amount of information hidden within. A single BH, the supermassive one at the center of our own galaxy, hides more information from us then all of the matter and light in the entire universe outside of black holes. And there are supermassive black holes at the center of each of the billions and billions of galaxies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxVlGAFX7vA
All of that information, the vast majority of information that we know about, is hidden from us by the event horizon of black holes, and they are always hungry for more. BH's are areas in space-time holding vast amounts of information. Information warping space-time such the path of any information that happens to come to close leads into itself. Information that our consciousness could otherwise use to create the forms within that we perceive as “real” “stuff”. Which is perhaps for the best, as perceiving all that information with such limited consciousness would probably take so long so as to make time seem to stand still and life would seem to stop.

"Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real" - Neils Bohr.
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Old 17-02-2020, 09:32 AM
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It will be so cool if Betelgeuse blows! I'll have a field day, literally, with my telescope.

https://www.universetoday.com/145011...s-to-prove-it/
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Old 19-02-2020, 12:42 AM
ketzer
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It will be so cool if Betelgeuse blows!

https://www.universetoday.com/145011...s-to-prove-it/
Gross, you will end up with betelgeuse all over you. I'm staying inside!
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Old 13-03-2020, 03:08 PM
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From a strictly spiritual perspective, do you think black holes are gateways?
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Old 13-03-2020, 04:01 PM
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From a strictly spiritual perspective, do you think black holes are gateways?
Funny you should ask, I just ran across something on that.
Not sure what a strictly spiritual perspective is, but I do tend to think they may be a gateway of sorts, albeit one behind a door with a rather high cover price to get through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFgpKlcpzNM
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Old 14-03-2020, 10:04 PM
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Fascinating video Ketzer. Thank you for sharing. While so much of it was over my head, it really did reflect the vastness of the universe(s) and the awe-inspiring possibilities. I was familiar with The String Theory and Many World Theory. When I said "from a strictly spiritual perspective" I was differentiating between a Soul's evolution - where it travels - and Quantum Physics and Cosmology.
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Old 15-03-2020, 12:54 AM
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Fascinating video Ketzer. Thank you for sharing. While so much of it was over my head, it really did reflect the vastness of the universe(s) and the awe-inspiring possibilities. I was familiar with The String Theory and Many World Theory. When I said "from a strictly spiritual perspective" I was differentiating between a Soul's evolution - where it travels - and Quantum Physics and Cosmology.
Funny you should mention string theory.
https://phys.org/news/2014-12-universe-dimensions.html
The universe is indeed vast, much more vast, with so many more possibilities than we are capable of imagining from our four dimensional perspective. Perhaps sailing on the quantum waves of the cosmic ocean, to the many worlds in those dimensions of string theory, is where the soul travels through on is journey of evolution. Are you familiar with Joseph Campbell. He mapped out the basic pattern in most stories of human mythology. I won't go into all the details as there is plenty online if one is interested. In short, though each story is different, the pattern is similar. And though each journey goes to a different place, the hero never returns the same, each trial and tribulation results in transformation and growth. This pattern is woven into many (most) of the stories of human mythology and even into the stories we tell today. It seems it is a journey we all seek, an inherent need written into our souls.
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