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Old 05-02-2020, 11:51 AM
Altair Altair is offline
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Feelings can be misguiding at times, but this is -again- when they come from the ego.
For this to work it's about the deeper feelings, the feelings that come from the heartspace, heart-based and heart-carried feelings, which is vastly different from feelings based on hurt ego. You have to learn to define between the two.
Who's to say they come ''from the ego''? You don't know me.

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I also don't hold such a negative view. I actually see and feel the Universe is very loving, like a warm embrace, always there to help and always taking care of us.
The words I would use are beautiful and wonderful, which our Universe absolutely is, but I would not call it ''loving''.
However, it will be 'loving' for the winners out there who get everything they want out of life. That's always how it goes, it is a matter of perception and where you are in life. Needless to say, whether we are 'positive' or 'negative', the Universe does not give any hint that 'it' cares, else we wouldn't have pandemics, wars, and so many other problems. In the Middle Ages many people believed in God, had faith, but that didn't stop them from catching the plague or dying from starvation.

Good to know you're in a good place, FairyCrystal, I mean that, but it does not apply to all people, and wishing or feeling that we are, as is the case with this Law of Attraction business, just doesn't work. It requires our mind to think in a certain way to be receptive to it, where we consciously grab those hits but ignore all the misses.
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Old 05-02-2020, 12:46 PM
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[quote=Altair]Who's to say they come ''from the ego''? You don't know me.
I was not talking about you, but general as this is how it generally works.

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Good to know you're in a good place, FairyCrystal, I mean that, but it does not apply to all people, and wishing or feeling that we are, as is the case with this Law of Attraction business, just doesn't work. It requires our mind to think in a certain way to be receptive to it, where we consciously grab those hits but ignore all the misses.
Thank you. And yes it does work. If you don't get the good stuff it's still what you attract. It takes work on Self. And I've done a helluva lot of that for years.
I'm currently also not where I want to be, that doesn't mean it doesn't work, it means I'm not 'cooperating', not consistently at a high vibration. I go up and down at the mo. The fact I still see it works as I get that what I send out, and knowing I can then also change that around, makes it easier to get there again. Once you've reached a certain level for a long enough time you won't go 'down there' so far anymore. Like everything in personal growth and evolving.

But to each their own. I respect your beliefs, they're just not congruent with mine.
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Old 06-02-2020, 09:12 AM
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Wanted to say that when you mentioned "feeling is the secret" it brought to mind how heart energy works. And that it's the secret to understanding feeling, is where our focus goes and how it attracts/brings things into one's life from that center.

Aethera,

Thanks for your confirmation. I agree!
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:40 PM
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When the divine soma flows into the heart all the world turns into love.
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Old 09-02-2020, 08:37 PM
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As this is a subforum dedicated to the relationship between SCIENCE and spirituality it would be nice if people could explain and show the science behind their beliefs and opinions.

To my knowledge this kind of thing isn't possible. What is possible, and more likely as an explanation, is that you are already a believer prior to winning the money, and think such things regularly, that you can wish for things and they will happen. You then simply place greater value in the hits and ignore all the misses, the times when it didn't work [confirmation bias].

I have tried (haven't we all? Either as kids and/or adults) to believe and think things will become true, but hey it doesn't work, even if I'm totally convinced. We have all fallen in love and were convinced the other had similar feelings but it doesn't work most of the time. We've all been totally convinced and believed we would get that job but hey, again it doesn't work out that way.

''Believers'' will remember the hits but ignore all the misses..
It's not hard for a human mind to fall into this kind of thinking.

Hello Altair,

This will explain the science and the spirituality well enough....

What's really strange is that the human mind achieves its greatest power WITH this kind of thinking. Mind, Heart and Spirit - ALL ONE

See for yourself. https://iasos.com/metaphys/bashar/
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Old 10-02-2020, 01:47 AM
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Aethera,

Thanks for your confirmation. I agree!
You are quite welcome~ And nice to know.
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Old 16-02-2020, 11:18 AM
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Yes, unconditional love, or joy, or appreciation (whatever you wanna call those good feeling emotions), is the path of least resistance towards your greater allowed realisation of all that you truely are being and becoming evermore here and now.

And the source of the matter is all vibrational. Relative. And the prime relativity being the energy motional relativity between your physical consciousness and your greater non-physical consciousness, which is always accurate indicated by your emotional guidance system.
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