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Old 19-04-2017, 11:10 PM
Iamit Iamit is offline
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Exclusions.

Mind gets such a bad press. including ironically from those who also embrace the concept of Oneness. Oneness challenges us to recognise that nothing is excluded from being the One Love in Action. Mind is Oneness minding. An even more challenging aspect of Oneness is that it must also include all abusers as well as those they abuse. Each the other and the One Love in Action dreaming difference where there is none.
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Old 20-04-2017, 12:26 AM
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Mind gets such a bad press. including ironically from those who also embrace the concept of Oneness. Oneness challenges us to recognise that nothing is excluded from being the One Love in Action. Mind is Oneness minding. An even more challenging aspect of Oneness is that it must also include all abusers as well as those they abuse. Each the other and the One Love in Action dreaming difference where there is none.

Even what you said is exclusive... because... some people seem to just like a good fight... if there weren't lines in the sand that they could pompously parade around what would they have to do with themselves?
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Old 20-04-2017, 12:44 AM
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Even what you said is exclusive... because... some people seem to just like a good fight... if there weren't lines in the sand that they could pompously parade around what would they have to do with themselves?

It is not unusual to find aspects of Oneness unacceptable and to be offended by the mere raising of the issues, whilst at the same time embracing the idea of Oneness itself. But of course it is Oneness arising as both the raising, the offense, and this. All happens by and to itself and yet nothing is happening:)
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Old 23-04-2017, 12:46 PM
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Mind gets such a bad press. including ironically from those who also embrace the concept of Oneness. Oneness challenges us to recognise that nothing is excluded from being the One Love in Action. Mind is Oneness minding. An even more challenging aspect of Oneness is that it must also include all abusers as well as those they abuse. Each the other and the One Love in Action dreaming difference where there is none.

I can relate.

When nothing is excluded one has to take full responsibility for themselves even when it might appear they "shouldn't" have too. We are designed in such a way that the mind will always try to dictate the need to make itself right when things are so "wrong" in the world. Yet a mind holding right and wrong cannot truly know what true nature is while it holds itself one way or another. A settled mind at peace with all beings is inclusive in the way you show..
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Old 24-04-2017, 01:51 AM
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I can relate.

When nothing is excluded one has to take full responsibility for themselves even when it might appear they "shouldn't" have too. We are designed in such a way that the mind will always try to dictate the need to make itself right when things are so "wrong" in the world. Yet a mind holding right and wrong cannot truly know what true nature is while it holds itself one way or another. A settled mind at peace with all beings is inclusive in the way you show..

Yes mind can be the way you describe. I call it mind being defensive about its function to think and reason correctly. One can imagine the conditioning which resulted in that outcome when its conclusions about what was best for the organism it serves were challenged by condemnation and physical punishment.

So of course a mind that had received a great deal of that is likely to be more defensive than one that had not. The level of defensiveness always makes sense when seen in context, The problem is that its often difficult for ourselves and others to see the detail of the context because the mind has kindly cast it out of memory because it was to painful to remember. But we can maybe generalise a little by describing it as some level of painful punishment.

When seen in this light our view of ourselves and others may be a little less harsh.
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