Are we all just a computer program

[Snow Goose]

Originally Posted by Baile

People. Watching. WAY. Too. Many. Hollywood. Movies.

Lots of fantastic esoteric literature out there, going back centuries, that explains life, reality, the soul, the nature of "God," the purpose of existence, etc. But you do have to pop your own popcorn before sitting down to read.

I understand where you are coming from Baile but Anthony Peak's work is really interesting, check out this small article:

https://www.anthonypeake.com/memorie...ed-in-the-zpf/

I became interested in Anthony Peak as I have had really strong Deja vu experiences in the past and he is the only person I feel has make any sense on the subject.

Let me just say Im in no way an advocate of transhumanism, for me there is a big difference between Anthony's work and TH.

[Baile]

Originally Posted by Snow Goose

I understand where you are coming from Baile but Anthony Peak's work is really interesting

Thank you for that. I see he is adapting/exploring the works of Huxley and JB Priestley, that's certainly of interest to me.

The common thread in both religion and the esoteric spiritual path, is that our salvation (the descriptor religion uses) or enlightenment (the spiritual descriptor) is primarily dependant on one thing: our coming to terms with our flesh and blood material selves. The difference is religion describes our humanness as sinful, as something to be avoided, and instructs us on the need to forgo the material body, and its wants and needs. Whereas spirituality outlines the higher realities behind why we incarnate in body form, and explains how experiencing our material-body reality to the fullest, is in fact the consciousness path to understanding soul-spirit reality.

21st century imaginations about The Matrix as well as all digital-universe concepts, are fun. They're awakening-consciousness fairy tales. And like fairy tales, they're reflecting a dream-world depiction of various aspects of both the flesh and blood reality of human life, and the soul-spirit reality of the eternal soul.

[Snow Goose]

Originally Posted by Baile

Thank you for that. I see he is adapting/exploring the works of Huxley and JB Priestley, that's certainly of interest to me.

The common thread in both religion and the esoteric spiritual path, is that our salvation (the descriptor religion uses) or enlightenment (the spiritual descriptor) is primarily dependant on one thing: our coming to terms with our flesh and blood material selves. The difference is religion describes our humanness as sinful, as something to be avoided, and instructs us on the need to forgo the material body, and its wants and needs. Whereas spirituality outlines the higher realities behind why we incarnate in body form, and explains how experiencing our material-body reality to the fullest, is in fact the consciousness path to understanding soul-spirit reality.

21st century imaginations about The Matrix as well as all digital-universe concepts, are fun. They're awakening-consciousness fairy tales. And like fairy tales, they're reflecting a dream-world depiction of various aspects of the flesh and blood reality of human life.

I'm glad thats of interest to you Baile! He certainly has an interesting take on things and comes at it from a scentific angle, which I think is great for a Modern interpretation of ancient knowledge.

I can tell we have a lot of ideas in common by the posts we both make. The difference between us I feel is that you describe yourself as new age which isnt something I identify with, not really sure what I am, i have a very wide range of interests, although I have interests in religion I don't feel any connections to the religions of today (Im including new age here also), i have a lot of respect for religion and people's beliefs, your life your choice.

The only way I can think to describe 'me' would be a diagram seen once, can't remember where.

It was a circle, each religion had a section on the circle, there were outer beliefs ideas within the religion where most people identified then a smaller group would identify with the inner more mystical part of that religion for example judaism v kabbalah. Personally I want to aim for the bulls eye, that bit dead centre. I feel the truth in anything in life is always somewhere in the middle.

[Dargor]

Well, sometimes it almost feels like I'm the only ''living'' being with a consciousness. I feel so isolated from society that most people around me appear to be nothing but NPCs with a programmed mind.

[Baile]

Originally Posted by Snow Goose

The difference between us I feel is that you describe yourself as new age which isnt something I identify with

New Age is generally a term I use to point out the problems with spirituality as it's often presented on the internet. New Age to me is more the commercialised version of esoteric, occult spirituality. What I do recognize, are astrological ages. We left the Piscean Age. That was the age of the great religions. As it relates to Pisces, religion views humanity as a collective of identical fish swimming in One ocean of truth. We are moving away from that understanding as our consciousness expands. The Age of Aquarius is the waterbearer. The waterbearer is a unique person and INDIVIDUAL, with one foot in the water (spirit) and one on land (material plane). The waterbearer no longer is One with the water, but carries the water vessel with them; carries their own unique understanding of spirit. And pours that individual spirit understanding onto the land, into the material plane.

I'm WAY more Kabbalah than New Age; Kaballah and Tarot together were one of my very first investigations into spirit. And yes to your message!

[Baile]

And as it relates to the topic, I would call matrix/digital reality concepts, New Age spirituality gone viral and virus.

Then there's New Age spirituality gone funky and fun: This place is so full of cool spirits. ~Lucy.heart

[Baile]

Originally Posted by Snow Goose

I feel the truth in anything in life is always somewhere in the middle.

The path I have adopted is referred to in esoteric philosophy as the middle path. In Tarot terms it is the Hermit, wandering and navigating alone between the two opposing human-thought activities most responsible for creating inner chaos and life confusion: the constraints of intellectualism (spiritual-scientific thinking), and the illusion of emotionalism (spiritual-religious belief). I say path but I really only have four beliefs I hold as fundamental truths, all having to do with the self, the soul, and humanity's evolutionary purpose, both individually and collectively.

I would suggest matrix/digital reality beliefs are a byproduct of intellectual/spiritual-scientific imagination and thinking. (Trying to stay on topic!)

[Snow Goose]

Thats great Baile!

I will let this thread get back to what it was created for ;-)

[Baile]

Originally Posted by Snow Goose

Thats great Baile!

I will let this thread get back to what it was created for ;-)

That wasn't meant for you, in fact our conversation is quite relevant I feel. It helps explain from whence (from whence I say!) these matrix/digital-reality beliefs spring and originate.

[r6r6]

.."Yet there is reason for optimism. Over the last decade physicists and mathematicians have been exploring a surprising correspondence that has the potential to breathe new life into the venerable Feynman diagram and generate far-reaching insights in both fields.

.... It has to do with the strange fact that the values calculated from Feynman diagrams seem to exactly match some of the most important numbers that crop up in a branch of mathematics known as algebraic geometry.

...These values are called “periods of motives,” and there’s no obvious reason why the same numbers should appear in both settings. Indeed, it’s as strange as it would be if every time you measured a cup of rice, you observed that the number of grains was prime.".....

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