Truth and Reality

How does one define belief?

If I exist, I am here and now..I am real through the experience of myself.....do I need a belief in the truth of my existence....not really I exist there fore I am....If you dont beleive me come visit me..you will see I exist ...lol...

Originally Posted by Mayflow

You stated that you said something that applies to everybody. I don't even know what it meant, and I am not sure why you think it applies to everyone everywhere, but it seems to me that it stems from the way you think, but not necessarily how everyone else thinks.

The statement is broad as it doesnt say how an individual thinks - more that because everyone does the act of "think" - the statement applies to everyone.

If you think it doesnt include you - perhaps you can explain why you think you excluded?

Originally Posted by silent whisper

If I exist, I am here and now..I am real through the experience of myself.....do I need a belief in the truth of my existence....not really I exist there fore I am....If you dont beleive me come visit me..you will see I exist ...lol...

If you exist - exactly.

A belief of existence is still a belief. A belief in reality is still a belief.

I am not saying dont believe in reality or dont believe you exist - merely recognise its a belief.

Originally Posted by The Eagle

If you exist - exactly.

A belief of existence is still a belief. A belief in reality is still a belief.

I am not saying dont believe in reality or dont believe you exist - merely recognise its a belief.

Is it a belief just because you see and feel....my mind doesnt determine that......my senses do. I see me, I touch me, I smell me..etc...

The true self has no identity...

I wonder if you mind is at play in all these discussions..perhaps thats why......we differ.

Originally Posted by silent whisper

Is it a belief just because you see and feel....my mind doesnt determine that......my senses do. I see me, I touch me, I smell me..etc...

A belief that senses represent truth or reality is still a belief. Lol.

And your mind processes the information you receive from your senses and from that youbuild a belief.

Originally Posted by silent whisper

The true self has no identity...

That is a belief held by you.

Originally Posted by The Eagle

A belief that senses represent truth or reality is still a belief. Lol.

And your mind processes the information you receive from your senses and from that youbuild a belief.

Ok see if I can give it one more match before I surrender...lol.

my mind processes the information.....I pick up......but what if I suspend all belief in that space of processing..what then does it become can you tell me?