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Old 20-07-2019, 12:51 AM
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Dream Yoga

It has been said that Dream Yoga is not the practice of Lucid Dreaming as lucid dreaming practice in itself can lead to super samsara.

Introduction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grlnGklIgMk

Extra comment to the video:
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After working with the preliminary practices during the day, and after doing the practices prior to sleep – purification breathing, guru yoga, generation of compassion and love, visualization of the protector dakinis, and forming of intention for the night – the first of the main practices is engaged.
Lie in the lion posture: Men lie on their right side, women on their left.
Free book:
https://selfdefinition.org/tibetan/T...-And-Sleep.pdf

One can also read Norbu’s book online:
https://archive.org/stream/DreamYoga..._Norb_djvu.txt

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THE PRACTICE OF THE NIGHT
When someone says “practice of the night” we usually think of the practice of lucid dreaming.
There are many explanations of lucid dreaming. But in the Dzogchen teaching, the practice of dream work, and development of lucidity, is not fundamental. It is a secondary practice. In the case of dream practice, secondary means that this practice can arise spontaneously or automatically from doing the principal practice, which is called the “practice of natural light.”

This practice, the practice of the natural light, actually has to do with the state prior to dream. For example, a person falls asleep; fall asleep means that all of his senses vanish into him, and thus he is sleeping. From that point on there is a passage, a period of transition, until dreams begin. That period may be long or it may be short.

For some people, the state of dreams begins almost immediately after falling asleep. But what does it mean, that the state of dream begins? It means that the mind begins to function again.

In contrast, that which is called the state of natural light is not a moment or a state in which the mind is functioning. It is the period beginning when you fell asleep and ending when the mind begins to function again.
I guess my negativity towards Astral practices stems from negative experiences of seeing how highly dualistic juvenile egoic mind can enter the Astral as if it was its playground for some kind of a ‘power game’ and then end up in all sorts of trouble, yet calling it “spiritual” - when it is not.

It also seems that the more one warns people about the problems of the Astral, the more people get interested in the subject.
Hence this post – to offer an idea of an alternative practice.

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