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Old 23-11-2011, 06:36 AM
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In order to assess anything requires critical thinking ~ we need to make judgment calls on stuff. Ourselves included.
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Old 23-11-2011, 06:50 AM
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In order to assess anything requires critical thinking ~ we need to make judgment calls on stuff. Ourselves included.

In my opinion we cannot fully understand our behavior. The root of all unhealthy behavior is the fact that we are asleep.

In my experience making judgment calls only complicates the problem. Suspecting that the problem is in my nature brings it back again and again.

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Old 23-11-2011, 07:00 AM
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This one also helps:

If I am judging myself I am asleep.
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Old 23-11-2011, 07:10 AM
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Are you saying it's ok to judge everything else? I'm really not clear on your concept.
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Old 23-11-2011, 07:25 AM
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Are you saying it's ok to judge everything else? I'm really not clear on your concept.

Of course not. I don't judge myself like I don't judge others.
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Old 23-11-2011, 07:53 AM
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Impossible to know how asleep a person is currently is so it is impossible to label (judge) a person as always asleep.
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Old 23-11-2011, 08:43 AM
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Forgiving self brings an additional quality, I mean even better than not doing anything bad.
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Old 24-11-2011, 10:50 AM
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Using the words 'flaw', (and variations of) 'bad' and 'guilt' is still judgement.

I found the real answer at last.

When we say it is not a flaw, in fact we are judging ourselves because we are suspecting that it is normal to do it, i.e. it is part of us. This is self-judgment.

My approach is:

I don't have this flaw.

But it is normal to do make mistakes because I am not totally awake.
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Old 24-11-2011, 12:25 PM
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I found the real answer at last.

When we say it is not a flaw, in fact we are judging ourselves because we are suspecting that it is normal to do it, i.e. it is part of us. This is self-judgment.

My approach is:

I don't have this flaw.

But it is normal to do make mistakes because I am not totally awake.

You imagine? We are committing faults and unconsciously wondering am I like that? am I like that?, going farther and farther from our true nature. Sleeping more and more...

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Old 24-11-2011, 12:57 PM
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Doubting my true flawless nature is not in my nature.
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